Talk:List of people legally executed in Australia

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Clean Up[edit]

I have started cleaning this article up adding states, with a listing for Norfolk island and removing the many red links in W.A Matt (talk) 11:25, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Samuel Wright[edit]

Just a query about the date of Samuel Wright's execution, which is given here as 8 February 1799 - but he wasn't brought to court until 14 February, according to the criminal court index at NSW State Archives and Records: https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/searchhits_nocopy?id=57&names=Samuel%20Wright&offence=&date=

Admittedly the passage in Collins's 'Account' isn't particularly clear, but surely the date of Wright's execution is incorrect? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.60.238.99 (talk) 12:28, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Quick follow-up: the date is definitely wrong: in a case described in the 'Historical Records of Australia', vol. 2, p. 299, a prisoner called Hugh MacDonald says he was in the Sydney Gaol with Wright after it had burned down - that took place on 11 February 1799. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.60.238.99 (talk) 12:47, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Norfolk Island[edit]

I've corrected the section on the so-called 'Cooking Pot' mutiny at Norfolk Island, as only twelve men were executed for that.

I've removed:

  • John Jackson, who was hanged for attempting to murder Aaron Price and Captain Hamilton in October 1845
  • John Liddall, who was hanged for attempting to murder fellow prisoner Henry Clarke in October 1846, and whose accomplice was Bernard McCarthy
  • John Gardner, who to murder overseer King in 1845/6
  • John Booth, because no man by this name was executed at Norfolk Island
  • Abraham Farrer - who attempted to murder William Skinner in May 1846, but was not executed (he received a sentence of 'death recorded', and a sentence to life at Norfolk Island). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.120.16.139 (talk) 02:26, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Split up[edit]

This list is enormous, and I think we should split it up. It is difficult to navigate, especially when looking at periods where many people were executed within a short amount of time. I just added a bunch of headlines to split the longer parts of the list into shorter pieces, but this has only marginally improved navigability. According to the article size guidelines, an article "almost certainly" should be divided if it has over 100 kB of prose text, and this article is somewhere around 225 kB.

Our best course of action would probably be to split off each state as its own article, for example at "List of people legally executed in New South Wales". This main article could then be left as an index. Alternatively, prose from the main article could be moved to a new section at "Capital punishment in Australia", with the state lists being included in a new nav template (to be placed in each state article and at "Capital punishment in Australia"). I'm not sure which would be most intuitive. What do you guys think? - 188.182.13.127 (talk) 14:30, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried fiddling around with how to make a sidebar. Here's an idea of what it could look like: - 188.182.13.127 (talk) 12:51, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
People legally executed in
Australia by state
New South Wales
Norfolk Island
Northern Territory
Queensland
South Australia
Tasmania
Victoria
Western Australia
See also: Capital punishment in Australia
Splitting it up by state sounds like a good idea to me. Navbar looks good and agree that it would be best to redirect to the main capital punishment article. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 14:21, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that it should be split into separate articles by each state. It's too unwieldy as it is. Ikeshut2 (talk) 11:50, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging @Ivar the Boneful and Ikeshut2: as they replied. (I am the same person as the IP who originally proposed the split). It's been several months now, and there have been no objections to this proposal. There seems to be a consensus in favor of splitting. As Ivar the Boneful favors the navbar approach, I believe this is what we should go with, rather than leaving this article as an index. Will someone please create the required articles and navbar template? I can't do that as an IP, but once they are created I will participate in the necessary rewrites. - 87.58.119.203 (talk) 03:15, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've added the sidebar and done the splitting. There's probably some cleaning up required. Ikeshut2 (talk) 13:28, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ikeshut2:: Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, and thank you for splitting. However, you added the sidebar in the wrong way. Please create a new page at Template:People executed in Australia and add the wiki markup there. That way, we only need to add "{{People executed in Australia}}" to articles, instead of copy-pasting the markup every time we need to use this sidebar. I'll get to work on clean-up. - 87.58.119.203 (talk) 17:34, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that. Creating templates is not something I've done before. Hopefully now OK. Ikeshut2 (talk) 19:06, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, there's a first time for everything. It works now. Thank you. - 87.58.119.203 (talk) 19:38, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've redirected this article to "Capital punishment in Australia", after repurposing most of the material from here in other articles. It looks like things are mostly cleaned up now. I just wanna say thank you again, @Ikeshut2:. Best wishes. - 87.58.119.203 (talk) 20:34, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No problem at all. Thanks to you for your help and advice. Ikeshut2 (talk) 20:41, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Glad I could help. - 87.58.119.203 (talk) 20:50, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merger into article about Capital punishment in Australia[edit]

Following this article being split into numerous state lists, this base article has been merged into the History section of the Capital punishment in Australia article. However, while the page has been redirected, other parts of the merger procedure remained outstanding. As a consequence, some additional cleanup was required to both the talk page and redirected page, as well as adding a note to the target article's talk page about this merger. The changes made include:

This talk page has not been merged into Talk:Capital punishment in Australia in order to preserve discussion about this article, but future discussion on this page should only concern its redirect, not the merged article. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 01:38, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for doing this. I'm the one who turned this article into a redirect, so I would like to apologize for not doing these things myself. In future, I will make sure to do these things, instead of leaving that work to someone else. - 87.58.119.203 (talk) 18:17, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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