Talk:List of outfield association footballers who played in goal

Links for lots more[edit]

I'm not really inclined to add all these just now, but might do one day if nobody else does. Here are a few links for plenty more players in goals if someone else is interested:

10 outfield players who looked hilarious when they went in goal... as PSG's Dani Alves joins the list (2018)
The Joy of Six: outfield players in goal (2013)
Lee Wallace, Robbie Winters and the history of outfield players going in goal (2019)
11 brilliant times outfielders went in goal: Ferdinand, Kane, Radebe and more (2019)
Top Ten outfield players in goal: From Harry Kane to Cosmin Moti (2018)
When outfield players go in goal: Rio, Beardsley, Savage, Quinn, Lansbury and more (2012)
Lille field three goalkeepers during incredible Ligue 1 match (2017)
Emergency Measures (?)
Good, bad and ugly: outfield players in goal (2014) - this is a UEFA one which helps to enhance the notability of the topic.

There are still a few to go from the FIFA list, already a ref:

Outfield players step in goal (2014)

...have fun. Crowsus (talk) 23:55, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have just put all the players on this list into the associated category, but really don't have time to put them all here now. Kevin McE (talk) 14:46, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just to point out for editors wanting to help (that includes me if I have time), most of these lists are self-published blogs and fan pages so it'd be preferable not to use them as references, but rather to find a independent reference, as I have done for John O'Shea (read about him on the planetfootball source above). --SuperJew (talk) 09:13, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Are snippets from local TV news programmes on YouTube allowable? I have just done so for Joe Dunne, 1992. Kevin McE (talk) 17:18, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Giresse/Tresor[edit]

If they were not registered as goalkeepers, and not allowed to use their hands (presumably wearing normal team shirts), were they goalkeepers at all, or just a sort of extreme sweeper? Kevin McE (talk) 17:18, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any need for multiple sources?[edit]

WP:V does state that extraordinary claims might need more than one source, but the events listed in this article, while somewhat unusual, are not that extraordinary. Kyle Walker's recent donning of gloves was added to the list, properly sourced. Another editor then added a second cite, with no new info exclusive to this second reference (A BBC column with a ridiculously childish headline, less info that the first source, and silly Twitter jokes), and the removal of this BBC article has been rejected. Given that we are not dealing with extraordinary claims, is there any need for such multiplication of sources, or is it unnecessary bloat? Kevin McE (talk) 22:07, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What is the harm in having two sources? Why have you chosen only Walker to target when there are other entries with multiple sources? Giant Snowman 09:13, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That was the one with a second source gratuitously added after the entry was complete and adequate as it was, although no extra info was added, and also a very poor quality piece of writing to link from an encyclopaedia.

If something is added to no purpose, why should we retain it? It adds nothing to the article.

But you are not addressing the issue of whether there is any need for, or merit in, second and subsequent references for something that is not disputed or extraordinary in the sense that the policy intends. Kevin McE (talk) 12:18, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You are citing WP:REFBLOAT, an essay. I refer you to WP:V, a policy, and remain of the view that having two reliable sourced verifying material is better than one. Giant Snowman 15:32, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have already referred you to WP:V more than once, and it requires multiple sources only in the case of extraordinary claims. You seem to be trying to hold this page, or at least the entry on Walker, to a higher standard than even featured articles are required to meet. Kevin McE (talk) 17:04, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]