Talk:List of chess families

Sections

Should this article use top level sections "Siblings", "Parent and child", and "Married", with the current sections used as subesections under them? I don't think we have any notable instances of same-sex married couples yet, but looking ahead that might come up. We might possibly have cases of in-laws being notable too, although I don't know if they would go in this list. 165.189.101.177 (talk) 16:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Families

The Shahades are in 3 different categories (father<->son, father<->daughter, sister<->brother). Seems redundant ;) Should we have a family category ? Beside Thomas Pähtz (SR.) and Elisabeth Pähtz there is also Thomas Pähtz (JR.) ELO 2345 .... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.48.110.115 (talk) 10:01, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Redlinks

Hi,

I stumbled across this page while looking for something else. There do seem to be a lot of redlinks (including the two I recently added myself just to remain consistent with rest of the article). I know that redlinks aren't inherently bad and that WP:REDDEAL says:

... [a redlink] should be allowed to remain in an article if it links to a term that could plausibly sustain an article, but for which there is no existing candidate article, or article section.

I have no problem with that statement at all. I do wonder, however, how many of these people would satisfy WP:BASIC and are legitimate candidates for Wikipedia articles according to WP:BLP. Moreover, it does seem as if WP:CSC is being stretched a bit in some cases, particularly those like Andrey Zhigalko and Sergei Zhigalko and Sergey Arkhipov and Natalia Alekhina, etc. where neither person is has a Wikipedia article. Should the names of these people even be included on this list? WP:Source list says:

Lists, whether they are embedded lists or stand-alone lists, are encyclopedic content as are paragraphs and articles, and they are equally subject to Wikipedia's content policies such as Verifiability, No original research, Neutral point of view, and others.

It also seems that the reasoning behind the alumni example given in WP:NLIST could be easily applied to this list, i.e., this list is not intended to contain every chess playing spouse, sibling, parent, partner, grandparent or grandchild; It's only intended for those with verifiable notability. After all, notability is not inherited and being related to a notable person in itself does not confer notability, right? I am very interested in hearing what others think. Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly (talk) 04:59, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Awkward stuff

Viktorija Cmilyte is divorced from Alexei Shirov and is now married to Peter Heine Nielsen. TBH I find the whole premise of the article questionable and it's awkward when someone (e.g. Jana Bellin) marries more than one notable chess player. MaxBrowne (talk) 09:42, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Possible COI?

Hi,

This recent edit has me wondering if it is appropriate for an editor to add their own name or the name of their spouse, etc. to a list such as this. Could something such as this be construed as a conflict of interest? Seems inappropriate to me, so I am interested in hearing what others may have to say. Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly (talk) 11:38, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

It's not promotional so the edit seems reasonable, however her husband Sotiris Logothetis, a FIDE Master and International Arbiter, probably wouldn't qualify for his own article under our guidelines. MaxBrowne (talk) 09:17, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

@MaxBrowne: Thanks for the reply. I wasn't sure since so that clears things up for me. - Marchjuly (talk) 20:27, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

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Order of names

When writing the name of female/male couples, the name of the woman should come first. I find it odd (and perhaps a little telling of the culture of chess) that this list of spouses is in reverse order. It doesn't even make sense as concerns rating or notoriety (e.g. in the case of Truong/S. Polgar. Thoughts from the community on changing the order? Sukey (talk) 21:49, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Missing groups

I'm putting this in talk as I've never edited Wikipedia before and I don't have time at the moment to learn the proper way to do it, but the following are missing: Hikaru and his step dad Anna Cramling and her father (each of them show up with Pia, but they don't show up together). Lazlo Polgar and each of his daughters Muzychuk sisters Van forests I'm positive there were more, but I'm blanking and these were all off the top of my head anyway. 147.161.9.84 (talk) 19:27, 2 February 2022 (UTC)