Talk:List of artists who have covered Bob Dylan songs

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This page shouldn't even exist with it being so incomplete... The Byrds alone have covered more Bob Dylan songs than this entire list

Eric Clapton

Should the previously unreleased songs written for Clapton by Dylan on some of his late 70s albums be included in the list? Thanks Kitchen roll (talk) 21:06, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I would have thought anything verifiable can be added, providing they are officially released recordings and verifiable. I also think the original recording should be referenced, not re-packaged re-releases i.e. Them recorded It's all over now, baby blue, not Them featuring Van Morrison which was a repackaging to cash in on Morrison's name. As for live recordings, perish the thought, there are enough BD songs released by others without trawling through anybody and everybody who played a BD song live! JMO. --Richhoncho (talk) 21:31, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree. I think this also applies to some of The Band's songs as well. I'll look into it and see if I can find out more about these songs. Thanks Kitchen roll (talk) 21:38, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

You might care to check out Category:Bob Dylan tribute albums, another way is to check out All Music Guide and see who recorded which Dylan song. Shame he's no longer with ASCAP, our work would be done for us! --Richhoncho (talk) 22:01, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I'll check the tribute albums out. It was a stroke of genius whoever created that page - much easier to find Dylan covers. I find that allmusic can have some mistakes on it though, and also a lot of the covers on there aren't notable enough for this article, but it is a good source. I'm also wondering if the Magokoro Brothers cover should be included, because there is no wikipedia article on them and they aren't widely known compared to nearly all the other artists in the list. I find the best way to reference covers on this page is to find a source that includes as many covers as possible so the reflist won't be as long as the article itself, that's why I'm predominantly refering to the Grateful Dead website at the moment. Thanks for your thoughts Kitchen roll (talk) 22:27, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

The Magokoro Brothers are on the Masked and Anonymous soundtrack, so that means they should stay, imo. There's little actual hard facts in things related to the music business but you can always find an opinion or two! --Richhoncho (talk) 23:22, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps you'd like to check out Second hand songs. On the ones I checked the artist's name and date appear to be right. --Richhoncho (talk) 13:49, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Would this website be reliable enough to reference songs in this article do you think? Thanks Kitchen roll (talk) 20:18, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Although songs are nominated for inclusion, I note there is a complete list of books which are referred to for reference. So although they admit lists are not complete, there seems to be every chance that the entries are correct. --Richhoncho (talk) 20:45, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Great! Thanks for the link btw it's realy helpful. These Eric Clapton songs that I mentioned, I don't believe they were recorded by Dylan first, which would mean they shouldn't feature in this article because it says at the top of the article that Dylan had to have written and recorded the songs. Thanks Kitchen roll (talk) 21:22, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

I think these are the ones you are looking for, Rita Mae, Walk Out in the Rain, If I Don't Be There by Morning. Maybe others. --Richhoncho (talk) 21:57, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes they're the ones. Also "Sign Language". I don't think these songs were ever recorded by Dylan, which would mean they shouldn't be included in the list, according the the lead section. Thanks Kitchen roll (talk) 16:46, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Changed the lead section. Simple. --Richhoncho (talk) 18:01, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Makes sense. Thanks Kitchen roll (talk) 19:00, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

If you trust it, here's another source. Bjorner. --Richhoncho (talk) 10:20, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Personally I wouldn't use it because, for example, it says Van Morrison has recorded "Just Like a Woman" on his album Pacific High Studios 1971, but this album is infact bootleg, so shouldn't be included in the list as there is no way of telling if it's an official release or not. Thanks Kitchen roll (talk) 12:40, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Hugues Aufray

Quite a notable recorder of Dylan songs, trouble is he translates into french and I can't find a reputable site that contains the original title. Can anybody help? --Richhoncho (talk) 10:36, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

The allmusic album review of Aufray Trans Dylan has translations of the songs on that album: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:0nfrxzejldte. Kitchen roll (talk) 11:12, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

headings and sub-headings

I think the names of the artists should be changed back to subheadings as it is easier to navigate through the article and find what your looking for. Also as an editor its easier to edit in the prevous format. Kitchen roll (talk) 17:17, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Rich Farmbrough, who changed it, is a very experienced editor. I assumed he had formatted as per some obscure WP dictum that I am not aware of. Maybe have a word with him? I am not bothered either way. I think we should be removing Corrina Corrina from the list as Mr D didn't actually write that one. Also work is needed on List of songs written by Bob Dylan. Keep up the good work. --Richhoncho (talk) 18:06, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Right will do. Cheers Kitchen roll (talk) 21:50, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Article size

The list is getting a bit long, and that's great considering that the first talk topic criticized the article as woefully lacking. However, I'm finding that it's now taking way too long to load, even with a pretty decent broadband feed. Does anyone have any suggestions for splitting it up? I think it's long enough that even a four-way split, e.g. A-G, H-M, etc., would be justified. What are the possibilities for doing this or something else? Allreet (talk) 22:54, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Seems like a good solution. Am I right in thinking you could keep the names of the artists on this page which would link through to the correct section of the sub-pages? --Richhoncho (talk) 10:31, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Rich...Thanks for responding. I have no idea what the technical possibilities are or how to execute them. The only "model" I can think of in terms of layout is a category page: it has a menu across the top that links to other pages down the alphabet, uses a three-column format, has continuous pages and allows jumping forward or backward by increments, e.g., Next 200. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by sub-pages, but I'm guessing the idea would be to have a list of the artists (which I like), each one of which would link to some kind of page elsewhere, where the songs would be listed (which I have reservations about). If that's along the lines of what you meant, I'm sure it's possible technically, but have doubts how "higher ups" would feel, plus it might not be be easy for the multitudes to edit. But I dunno, which is why I was looking for suggestions/help. Allreet (talk) 14:47, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't think categories would work or be acceptable. What I was thinking of (and I have just tested this to ensure it works). You list every band on the main page, then you pipe each band to the correct page like this List of Bob Dylan Covers A-H#The Byrds|The Byrds or if you prefer, PageName#Heading|Target Heading, and the whole thing between the standard brackets. This is used to take somebody to the correct section of the article, and providing there is a heading "The Byrds" this is where the reader will be taken. When, if, we have concensus, and a way required, I can start the work.--Richhoncho (talk) 18:42, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I like having all the artists on the same page as you propose, because then the reader can scan the lay of the land easily. At present, the length of the list is unwieldy—and it's leading to errors on saving edits. Your idea for linking to an artist's covers is equally cool. I only have two concerns: Navigation back to the main listing (a "Back" link of some kind?) but more important, how editors would add new artists. For example, adding to an existing artist would basically be the same as it is now, but what about a new artist? That is, would an editor also have to add the artist and required markup to the main page? Thanks for stepping up to take this on. Allreet (talk) 17:22, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Once the system is in place it should be easy for any editor to copy and paste to add new artists. A back button at the end of the artist entry? I'll sandbox a trial. Be back soon! --Richhoncho (talk) 17:30, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

I tried to keep a link to the artist page and the Dylan song list and it looks a little messy, other than that, have a look at User:Richhoncho/Dylanmain, feel free to play in my sandbox if you want. --Richhoncho (talk) 18:05, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

The general concept of an artist list and linking from there to the song list is great, as is the idea of using a table. Playing with it sparked the idea of a multi-column format (User:Richhoncho/Dylanmain#Concept 2) without a grid. The bullets may be a little "pointed" visually, but they allow word-wrap for individual entries so narrowing the page becomes less of a concern. There no doubt are other possibilities and limitations that haven't occurred to me, but that's primarily because I'm already out of my depth. Allreet (talk) 06:14, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

I like your idea, but I have now added another alternative using columns, rather than tables. This has the benefit of being easier to edit, creates an index. I cheated on the alphabetic listing for this and I appear not to have have got the columns in equal lengths, but you will see the possibilities. Should we try and bring WPDylan in on this conversation? Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 08:29, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Outstanding. As is this process of brainstorming. Yep. Open it up for discussion. This is the ticket. Thanks. Allreet (talk) 22:29, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Ready to roll out

I have now created a word document to replace when we have approval and sub-pages to load up. It's correctly alpha and best available column lengths without splitting a letter, and all I need to do is search and replace to direct to the correct page. I have tested it, but not saved. This leaves two minor problem and one question.

• Where we have two artists joined together for heading i.e. Steven Stills and Al Kooper I don't think the piping will work, I think the easy way would be a heading of Steve Stills and Al Kooper with a note below along the lines of a collaboration between Steve Stills and Al Kooper
• There may be a lot of grief moving the references, because some of short refs may be on different pages to the main ref.
• Can we change the title from "cover" to "recorded by" on the grounds that cover can signify an artist has played the song live on a wet Wednesday in Wigan before 2 people and that really isn't notable!
• I will keep an eye on the article for any additional artists added.

Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 09:39, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Looks like we have no objections, better suggestions and bearing in mind it should be split because of size, are you ready to roll, Allreet? I don't mind 2, 3 or 4 pages. I have a couple of artists to add when the change has been made. I won't be around Saturday/Monday. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 21:11, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Peter, Paul and Mary

...let's not forget Peter, Paul and Mary, please. Here's an excerpt from their Wikipedia write-up:

That year the group performed "If I Had a Hammer" and "Blowin' in the Wind" at the 1963 March on Washington, best remembered for Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech. One of their biggest hit singles was the Bob Dylan song "Blowin' in the Wind".[4] They also sang other Bob Dylan songs, such as "The Times They Are a-Changin'"; "Don't Think Twice, It's All Right,"[4] and "When the Ship Comes In." Their success with Dylan's "Don't Think Twice, It's All Right" helped Dylan's "The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan" album rise into the Top 30; it had been released four months earlier.[5]

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Help with an addition?

I noticed that Dylan's song, "Mississippi" was covered by both the Dixie Chicks in concerts as a band, and on occasion, with Sheryl Crow. Crow recorded it on her album, The Globe Sessions". Would someone please add it who has the time? I'm rushed right now. Thanks. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 15:02, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

The Beatles

Our article on the song states, "Positively 4th Street" was also rehearsed by the Beatles during the Let It Be recording sessions, but they never recorded a complete version of the song.[29]". Is that really enough to get on this list? I would say "No," what about you? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 14:50, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Bettye Lavette

Bettye Lavette's rendition of 'Everything's Broken' is missing in this list. 2001:982:99AD:1:887E:8F52:7409:46C8 (talk) 08:09, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Couple great forgotten Dylan covers

The FACES, Wicked Messenger (1970) SAVAGE GRACE, All Along the Watchtower (1970)

Also it would great if the year of release was cited on the songs. Rocking Bear (talk) 15:43, 12 June 2023 (UTC)