Talk:List of animals with hymens

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Incomplete list?[edit]

Wy wopuld somebody make an incomplete list here?

Is really this exact? ISN'T that only human has hymen with-on female's body? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.162.3.155 (talk) 06:07, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

English[edit]

Do you speak it?

Seriously, I looked at that for about 10 minutes and I have no idea what it means.

/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.4.58.134 (talk) 04:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wasps[edit]

Is it possible Wasps was included accidentally due to being of the order Hymenoptera?--24.59.75.60 (talk) 18:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clams[edit]

I believe clams included in this list is a error/joke —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.144.220.215 (talk) 23:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AMT[edit]

D LOYAL LISTENER COWIE WAS HERE FIRST —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.21.165.144 (talk) 22:04, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaning Up -- Better References Needed[edit]

The current references are informal articles on human sexuality which both mention non-human animal physiology only in passing. What is needed is a reference to a text on comparative mammalian anatomy, but we have to work with what we've got.

The Hanne Blank interview states: "Many mammals have hymens, including (but not limited to) llamas, guinea pigs, bush babies, manatees, moles, toothed whales, chimpanzees, elephants, rats, lemurs, and seals. This is because mammals' reproductive systems often tend to develop in similar ways to one another, so they have a lot of similarities in structure." and "In some animals, the hymen appears to have more of a function: guinea pigs' hymens dissolve when they are fertile, letting male guinea pigs mate with them, then grow back and completely close off the vagina when the guinea pigs are not in heat."

The Straight Dope article states: "... retention of the hymen is not unique to humans. It occurs in horses, whales, moles, mole-rats, hyenas, and perhaps other animals. (In the great fin whale, in fact, the hymen is not completely destroyed until childbirth.)"

So that gives us: bush babies, chimpanzees, elephants, guinea pigs, horses, humans, hyenas, lemurs, llamas, manatees, moles, mole-rats, rats, seals, and whales.

I am removing other entries and suggest that any new additions be accompanied with a reference. Kirk Hilliard (talk) 23:51, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Odontoceti vs. Mysticeti[edit]

Hanne Blank specifies "toothed whales"; Cecil Adams more generally states "whales" but goes on to discuss the Fin Whale, a baleen whale. So, absent any better reference, I will just use "whales". Kirk Hilliard (talk) 00:20, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Scarleteen Reference[edit]

The reference "Scarleteen Interviews Hanne Blank", Scarleteen, Hanne Blank, 1997; is to an interview with the author of the book "Virgin: The Untouched History" [1]. It would be preferable to reference the book itself, or even better, the sources that Blank references. Does anyone have access to this book, say from a library? If so, can they report what list is provided in the book, whether there is any indication of how inclusive the list is and what the criteria for inclusion is, and what original sources are referenced? -- Kirk Hilliard (talk) 21:41, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Snippets of Blank's book appear on google's book search, and the same list given in the Scarlateen interview appears on page 23. "A diverse spectrum of mammal types, including female llamas, guinea pigs, bush babies, manatees, moles, toothed whales, chimpanzees, elephants, rats, ruffed lemurs, and seals all have them." There is no indication if a reference to a primary source is provided, so if you have access to the book itself, please look into this. I have replaced this article's Scarleteen reference with one for Blank (2007). -- Kirk Hilliard (talk) 22:46, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD -- Consensus to merge[edit]

The recent AfD resulted in a consensus to merge. As per Help:Merging and moving pages I have performed a selective merge, and now have this article redirecting to Hymen#Hymens in other animals. This list article was only linked to from the Hymen article which it supported, and it is an unlikely article title to be sought directly, so the redirect in itself seems silly, but according the merging guidelines it is there to preserve the page's edit history. -- Kirk Hilliard (talk) 11:26, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]