Talk:List of Formula One World Championship points scoring systems

Half points

I've not looked too hard into this, but it seems that in 1975 drivers started earning half points. This needs to be explained in this article. --Mal 03:41, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I think notes 2, 5, 6, 8 and 15 adequately describe how the distribution of half points have been awarded over time (initially for shared drives, then only in some cases and for fastest laps, then not for shared drives, and later for half-distance races). AlbinoMonkey ^(Talk) 09:02, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

To tell the truth, half points are today not given for "half distance", but for less than 75% of the distance of the race., AFAIR. --Vinci71 16:20, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

They don't. 1975 is only noted by note 10 for example. --Mal 09:17, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

1980 scoring system

This article stipulates that the points system employed for the 1980 season permitted “8 (4 from first 7, 4 from last 8)” wins to be counted towards the drivers championship. This matches the information from the results section of www.formula1.com which states “Points for top six finishers (9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1). Half points awarded for races stopped before half distance. Only the best four scores from the first seven races and the best four scores from the remaining eight races counted towards the championship.” However I am certain this cannot be correct. The “4 from first 7, 4 from last 8” stipulation suggests that there were 15 races, there were 14 in 1980. The only way I can get the results to come out right is on the basis of the best 5 from the first 7 plus the best 5 from the last 7. Can anyone confirm that this is correct? Brendan.Coffey (talk) 12:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

You're right (confirmed by Mike Lang's Grand Prix! Vol 3). Good spot. Fixed. DH85868993 (talk) 12:47, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Points Scoring

Why are we using the non-word 'pointscoring', rather than the actual words 'points scoring', and the usual rule about hyphenating two words when they are used as one adjective? i.e. Points-Scoring System .... Camcurwood (talk) 15:41, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree that this term is strange and probably not proper. I've personally never seen this term used anywhere in the context of F1, except on Wiki. The FIA and many other sources use the term "Points system". Is there any reason we should keep using this made-up term on Wiki? So I'm re-opening this up for discussion, and if there are no objections within some reasonable timeframe, I'm going to change this.

cherkash (talk) 21:23, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I'd probably go for "...points scoring systems" (i.e. with lower case and no hyphen), for consistency with List of FIM World Championship points scoring systems. But I'd also be happy with "...points systems". DH85868993 (talk) 22:57, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Needs changing in the title as well as in the text - pointscoring is not a word and makes Wikipedia look amateur - a shame as this is a great article otherwise —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.245.198.135 (talk) 10:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I've moved the article to List of Formula One World Championship points scoring systems. And updated the text. DH85868993 (talk) 12:30, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Highest points awarding result when shared drive

I think, it is not correct at least for 1955 - for in this case Nino Farina could not have scored his 10,33 points.

Well it does apply to 1956, because Fangio did a 2nd and a 4th in Monaco plus the fastest lap and was only awarded 6/2 + 1 = 4 points.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Micron1970 (talk • contribs) 09:28, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Since it does apply in 1956 (Monaco-56), and does not apply in 1955 (Argentina-55, both Farina and Trintignant) I'm going to change the article now in this respect. cherkash (talk) 03:06, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Tie-breaks

A list of tie-break rules would be useful. Or was it always the highest number of wins, then 2nd places etc.? --Roentgenium111 (talk) 21:58, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Constructors

It does not say in which year the Constructors championship changed from the best single result to the best two results from each race constributes to constructors standings. --Falcadore (talk) 01:30, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Number of races

Can I suggest an improvement to the table, by including the total number of races per season as an additional column.

Thanks --Dummy half (talk) 16:21, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm not convinced this would be an improvement - since 1981, the points scoring system has been independent of the number of races, and since the number of races has changed almost every year since 1994, it would mean adding a lot of extra rows to the table which would be identical apart from the number of races. DH85868993 (talk) 13:55, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

1961

What's the meaning of the D and C in the 1st place cell in the 1961 row? Tvx1 23:39, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

D = Drivers, C = Constructors. In 1961, drivers got 9 points for a win, but constructors only got 8. Crazy, huh? DH85868993 (talk) 01:53, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

I've added tooltips. DH85868993 (talk) 08:36, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

1975

I can't find any reliable sources for deciding between 6/7+6/7 and 7/8+5/6 points formulas. I've seen both mentioned on both English and other languages' wikis. Anyone can trace it to something like the contemporary Autocourse or any other similar source for the year in question? cherkash (talk) 07:52, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

The points table on page 102 of Mike Lang's Grand Prix! Vol 3 splits the season into "1st Part" (the first 7 races) and "2nd Part" (the last 7 races). Splitting the season evenly (i.e. 7/7) is also consistent with other seasons with an even number of races. DH85868993 (talk) 09:34, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Timeline

Because of the variable number of years per row, I thought it might be nice to have a timeline to visualise how long each system has been used for. I know it doesn't include the best results counted like the table, but that would give it dozens of colours for "one system" and ruin the point. You could do two colours for the 9-6-4-3-2-1 era, 1967–78 was very different from the other years, but to give just that range a different colour feels kind of arbitrary. Anyway, that isn't the main point, first I should know if others think a timeline in the same section as the table is a good idea in the first place. –Ugncreative Usergname (talk) 07:40, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

2014 scoring system

Why isn't the point system from 2014 included in the table list? I understand it's only the last race to be different, but it's actually a different point system than other years and I think it deserves to be recognized. The table as it is now is missing information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.17.125.236 (talk • contribs)

Note 17 notes that double points were awarded in the last race of 2014. DH85868993 (talk) 09:28, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Number of races left after championship decision

The amount of races left after the championship decision very much depends on the point system. Not sure if that could properly be explained in a Wikipedia article, but it is one of the deciding factors when it comes to creating a point system. If the difference in points between the first and the second place is larger, the championship might be decided sooner. However if the difference between in points is smaller, the leader will sooner reach the point that will allow him to win the championship with a second place in each of the remaining races. Both scenarios are bad for the competition towards the end of the season. For all past seasons it is possible to calculate both points even with other point systems. Such a table could show which point system would have the fewest remaining races when the championship was decided and the fewest remaining races when second places for the rest of the year would be enough for the leader to decide the championship. Such a table could explain why each point system has pros and cons. Bimmelbammel (talk) 14:27, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Half points for fastest lap 2019-2021

I believe from 2019 to 2021 the regulations intended half points for fastest lap, too. I don't speak russian, so I can't verify the source given, but this source seems reliable.

As note 'v' states, in the only applicable race (Belgium '21) there was no fastest lap awarded. (Likely because there was virtually no proper lap. The result was taken from Lap 1. But I couldn't find any official statement.) However, if there was a fastest lap from a driver in the Top 10, then 0.5 points would have been given. So it would be more precise to state 'half' for all columns - possibly with an additional row '2019-2021'.

2A02:8108:1880:548:2CD2:180D:17AF:91AC (talk) 13:00, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Shortened sprints

What percentage of a sprint must be completed for drivers to get full points? (Fran Bosh (talk) 19:46, 30 July 2023 (UTC))