Talk:List of American film actresses

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Taylor Lautner[edit]

Taylor Lautner is an actor, so he shouldn't be in this category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.182.234.208 (talk • contribs) 23:37:37‎ 23 April 2009

Thanks. Has been removed at some stage. Mirokado (talk) 16:17, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List contents[edit]

Clearly this is actresses in American films, not actresses of American nationality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.253.46 (talk • contribs) 09:42:00‎ 30 March 2011 (UTC)

I disagree. If you look at the leads of the articles they say "xxx is an American actress" or similar: clearly that is what is meant by the title. --Mirokado (talk) 16:17, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've now finished tidying this list up (apart from checking the cleaned list again for any still missed). If anyone wants to create lists of expatriate or foreign actresses who have starred (or appeared) in American films, various categories or the diff of recent changes to this list may be a help. You would probably need to provide a reliable source with each entry though, because otherwise the list would not be verifiable. I don't that that is worth the trouble and suggest looking at the categories directly for such information. --Mirokado (talk) 18:46, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Joan Fontaine and Olivia de Havilland were not British-born[edit]

Joan Fontaine and Olivia de Havilland were not British-born
These women were biological sisters, both born in Tokyo, JAPAN. Their mother was a Californian, and their father was a British lawyer from the noted De Havilland family. (Noted for aviation more than anything else.)
Their father was working in international law in Japan during their gestation and birth, but some time after Joan's birth, their mother took them to live in California with her relatives. Interestingly, since her retirement decades ago, Ms. De Havilland has resided as an American citizen in Paris, France. As I write this, she is 100 years old, and Joan Fontaine is deceased.47.215.211.115 (talk) 09:57, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Date format[edit]

@VICTORYIN08: See List of American artists 1900 and after, which I just picked at random, or any other list of people, to see how Wikipedia generally shows birth and death years. I cleaned up this list to make the format standard, and then it was changed back to the uneven quality that it had when I started. An explanation for undoing my changes would have been polite. Now would also be a good time to explain. Chris the speller yack 15:16, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]


OK, I am new to this so I hope I am doing this correctly.
Well, adding "born" to each actress was unnecessary since it is explained in the beginning that the date by the name of the actress is the year she was born.
I thought it would be interesting to know at a glance which actress was 80 or older and the revision eliminated that visual aide.
I apologize for not explaining why I undid the changes, won't happen again. Sorry.VICTORYIN08 (talk) 21:48, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@VICTORYIN08: I see that you mean well. One section of a talk page holds all edits that discuss a single topic; just indent each new entry by putting enough colons (:) at the beginning. Why is 80 a magic number for age? Surely all ages are of interest to some readers, right? When readers see "(born 1948)" or "(1931–2013)" after a name they immediately know what the numbers mean without studying a key or legend for that page. There are thousands of lists like this, and I think a consistent look is desirable. Who is going to maintain this format whenever an actress turns 80? Chris the speller yack 23:43, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ageism?[edit]

Why does this article highlight people over 80 years old with a row of stars? (********** for anyone 80 years or older) This strange ageism should be removed. — JFG talk 13:16, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@VICTORYIN08: You just added stars to an actress that recently turned 80. Do you have an explanation why these people are singled out in the list? — JFG talk 22:42, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why not? I think it is a significant milestone reaching 80. I could be wrong but I don't think too many people would have an issue with this.VICTORYIN08 (talk) 01:33, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the first two comments here. Flagging people over any age is ageism and completely arbitrary. Why 80? 80 is no more a significant milestone than 70 or 90 or 120 --76.14.38.58 (talk) 04:46, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Found this via the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#List of American film actresses and I agree that this is arbitrary and completely unnecessary. I've removed it again. PC78 (talk) 21:00, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • So you've edit-warred instead of waiting for a consensus Atlantic306 (talk)
      • I haven't previously edited the article, and there is literally no-one else who supports having this in most people seem to support removing this from the article. So, no. PC78 (talk) 21:08, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • except the creator of the article of course, Victory IN08 so youve closed down a discussion youve taken part in by editwarring (reverting during a brd discussion is edit warring) Atlantic306 (talk)
    • Most comments were over two weeks old, that's not an "ongoing" discussion, and there was a broad concensus that this should be removed. That's also not what an WP:EDITWAR is. PC78 (talk) 21:18, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • On wikipedia two weeks is an ongoing discussion, there are many that last years and deciding consensus is not appropriate for a participant in the discussion Atlantic306 (talk) 21:22, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm sorry you feel aggrieved but I believe I've acted properly here. Since 76.14.38.58 challenged this over two weeks ago, several users agreed that it should be removed (here and at WT:FILM) and no-one was defending it. This is not XfD or RfC so there is no need for a formal concensus to be declared. I agreed that it was unnecessary and removed it per WP:BOLD – that's how editing works. Instead of trying to attack me, why don't you try and make a case for keeping it in the article? PC78 (talk) 21:40, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Here via WikiProject Women. I agree with JFG and PC78 here: highlighting actors over the age of 80 with a row of stars feels bizarre and unnecessary. WanderingWanda (talk) 18:55, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Voice actresses[edit]

@Atlantic306: Is a voice actress same with regular actress? I admit their talent as voice actress, but we can never see them act physically (with their full body), can't we? That's why I think the voice actresses should be distinguished and be removed from this list, so this article will keep to being "List of American film actresses" — Nooviiaan (talk) 23 October 2018

    • Disagree - voice acting is a skilled art and many notable actresses do voice roles, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 15:20, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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