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Featured articleLisa the Vegetarian is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
Good topic starLisa the Vegetarian is part of the The Simpsons (season 7) series, a good topic. This is identified as among the best series of articles produced by the Wikipedia community. If you can update or improve it, please do so.
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Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
December 18, 2008Good article nomineeListed
December 30, 2008Peer reviewReviewed
July 8, 2009Good topic candidatePromoted
August 18, 2009Featured article candidatePromoted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on December 4, 2008.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Paul McCartney's condition for guest starring in The Simpsons episode "Lisa the Vegetarian" was that Lisa, who becomes a vegetarian in the episode, remain one for the rest of the series?
Current status: Featured article

Cultural references[edit]

I remove these unsourced references from the article:

  • The pig that Homer roasts and blasts into the air, flying over the nuclear power plant, is a direct reference to the Pink Floyd's Animals album cover, which shows a pig flying over London's Battersea Power Station (see also Pink Floyd pigs).
  • I Spit on Your Grave, a notorious exploitation film, is listed on the billboard for the drive-in cinema.
  • Apu's T-Shirt, which says "Don't have a cow, man" is a direct reference to one of Bart Simpson's catchphrases.
  • Numerous references to The Beatles are present in the episode. Paul claims to have met Apu during the Maharishi period. The Beatles' visit to the Guru in India was a big media story in 1967.
  • Paul's first line in the episode is (referring to Lisa) "What, she's leaving home?" This of course is a reference to the song She's Leaving Home from the Sgt. Pepper album.

They can be added back if anyone finds a reliable source for them. --TheLeftorium 11:42, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i spit on your grave is referenced here: http://www.snpp.com/episodes/3F03.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.248.125 (talk) 10:44, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, SNPP is an unreliable source. --TheLeftorium 15:20, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I added the shes leaving home im looking for a reliable source but if you can just leave it theirJoe59108 (talk) 00:06, 6 August 2009 (UTC)Joe59108[reply]

Obvious reference is obvious. (Paul's line: She's leaving home?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.155.233.45 (talk) 10:11, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I'm Amazed[edit]

Maybe I'm Amazed is not a Beatles song. It is from Paul McCartney's solo career. Otherwise good job on the article. --Maitch (talk) 20:47, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some thoughts[edit]

I started working my way through the article. However, I'm not sure how I should move forward with the "Writing" section. To be blunt, I think a good chunk of that text should probably be deleted. We spend too much time discussing scenes that aren't mentioned in the "Plot" section, and the third paragraph is totally vague. (What is it about Apu that specifically makes him a good choice as the voice of tolerance?)

Would anyone object if I trimmed the section to, like, two or three paragraphs? Let me know... Zagalejo^^^ 07:26, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, that would probably be alright. —TheLeftorium 09:25, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note that I haven't been focusing on the ref formatting or MOS issues. We'll work on those later. Right now, I'm just looking at the prose. I still have a ways to go, though. Zagalejo^^^ 23:48, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Grill scene[edit]

I'm not sure what the article means when we say that "the same animation from the older episode was used" in the lighter fluid gag, since the gag in "Treehouse of Horror" has a totally different payoff -- there is an explosion. Did someone mishear something in the commentary? (I don't have the DVD with me right now, unfortunately.) Zagalejo^^^ 04:53, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They did say that it was the same animation, but I removed that part and reworded the sentence a bit. TheLeftorium 17:34, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK, that works. Zagalejo^^^ 21:34, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Scartol[edit]

Well, I finally did my copyedit. Sorry for the incredible delay! Fortunately, it didn't take long, since the article is very well-written and well-researched. I wish it were longer, but I suppose there just isn't anything else to be said about it. Kudos for all your hard work!

Here are some minor questions and concerns I had:

Lead

  • I expect there's a consensus among editors of Simpsons articles about whether to refer to him as David X. Cohen or not. Since he's better known with the X, it seems proper to refer to him that way, but perhaps he's credited on the episode with the S?
  • Yeah, he is credited with the S and he didn't change his name until 1998.
  • I assume we don't know which "other episode" he was working on when he developed the idea?
  • True.

Production

  • I'm changing "then-wife" to just "wife".. Seems unnecessary to indicate that they're no longer married (that's usually done when the couple divorces).

Reception

  • I worry that most of the quotes come from lesser-known sources. Do we have any commentary from Variety or Entertainment Weekly or the like?
  • Unfortunately, no, but the sources currently used are reliable so I don't think this will be a problem.
  • Larry Dobrow and Mike Errico of Blender named the McCartneys' performance in the episode as the eight best band cameo on the show... I assume that's supposed to be "eighth best"? I would check it myself, but...
  • Fixed.
  • The link to the Blender article is broken. You may want to double-check the other links to see if there are others to fix.
  • Replaced it with this.

Congrats again on your dedication to this article. Please let me know when it goes to FAC so I can weigh in. If you have any questions, please let me know. (You can also probably remove the CE request from the Guild page.) Scartol • Tok 14:09, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for taking a look! The article used to be a bit longer in the production section ([1]), but the information was removed because it was pretty bad. Do you think any of it is worth using? Theleftorium 14:32, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What do you think about the addition here, [2]? Keep it or lose it? Theleftorium 15:32, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No, I don't think either of those is really too important — mostly just the developers giving their opinions, which are pretty obvious. (Maybe it just seems that way because I've seen the episode 576,224,081 times.) I think it's good as is! Scartol • Tok 17:05, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Alrighty then, I'll nominate the article later tonight. Thanks again! Theleftorium 18:36, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Why does Scientician redirect here?[edit]

There is an entry for Scientician, which is a redirect to this article. But that term is never mentioned in this article, and it is not clear how that redirect is supposed to be relevant. Can anybody shed any light on it, and perhaps how the article could be updated to make it clear? Gronk Oz (talk) 03:57, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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