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The move has not been confirmed by anyone within mercedes , ferrari , f1 or Lewis himself hold edits about his transfer till further confirmation as rumors like this happened before •Cyberwolf•talk? 14:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree that it's currently WP:SPECULATION until confirmed by one or more of the teams. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:56, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wish there would be a sports speculation and how news agencys shouldn’t be cited independently but with the team or organization press release to further verify •Cyberwolf•talk? 15:52, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I notice his Ferrari has been added, despite that the fact that Sky Sports article clearly shows they believe it to be true but haven't had official confirmation.... Joseph2302 (talk) 15:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Removed until an official announcement from either Mercedes or Ferrari. LouisOrr27 (talk) 16:01, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would delete or specify that it hasn’t been confirmed by Mercedes or Ferrari or Lewis haven’t confirmed this •Cyberwolf•talk? 16:01, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think it better to leave the article without it until an official announcement from either Mercedes, Ferrari or Lewis. LouisOrr27 (talk) 16:04, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
News agencies are the equivalent to a middle school •Cyberwolf•talk? 16:46, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mercedes didnt know and was caught off guard •Cyberwolf•talk? 17:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ferrari and Mercedes have refused to comment. Mercedes F1 staff were told in a meeting with team principal Toto Wolff and technical director James Allison on Thursday afternoon BBC says Why doesn’t Mercedes Ferrari or Hamilton say anything •Cyberwolf•talk? 17:24, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Under his name he is called MBE which he was awarded in 2008 however in 2020 he was awarded a KBE which is a higher title. Despite this his title has not been upgraded even though he is called a "sir" above. Should it not be changed into KBE? DuxLoKi (talk) 23:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, from what I've read, but if he is Knight Bachelor, he should not have the MBE post nominal, right? 4rkange1 (talk) 03:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see. May I assume that as in the thread below, he was granted MBE in 2009, but more recently KBE? 4rkange1 (talk) 09:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. That's exactly what happened (and quite common) SSSB (talk) 12:40, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No - MBE, then Knight Bachelor (Kt, but not used as a post-nominal unless there is a clashing title). Ian Dalziel (talk) 14:36, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Change MBE to KBE. Lewis Hamilton got the title MBE in 2009, but has since become a KBE, which is why he can use "Sir".
Recently, some of my contributions to the lead section were deleted by Lobo151, with the rationale cited as "NPOV". I understand this pertains to the claim "Hamilton is the most successful (statistically, do not confuse it with "greatest") driver in Formula One history", which could be debated, though a similar assertion exists in the Sebastian Vettel article. However, I'm puzzled by the removal of post-2020 information; omitting it renders the lead misleading after the mentioning of his record-equaling titles. Shouldn't there be a mention of his controversial title loss in 2021 and Mercedes' struggles in the current ground effect era? Additionally, details about his driving style were also removed from the lead, despite such information being commonplace in most driver articles. I believe these aspects are noteworthy and warrant inclusion in the lead. Autoadrenaline (talk) 11:24, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is to much detail for the lead. Most information is mentioned in the article itself. See for example Driver profile. Also another example "Following a successful stint of six years with McLaren" is not a fact. The same for "controversially missing-out". Lobo151 (talk) 23:32, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
According to MOS:LEADLENGTH, my lead version maintains an appropriate level of detail and is permissible for inclusion. Additionally, WP:LEAD emphasizes the importance of encapsulating key elements of the article within the lead section. The information I introduced is widely regarded as crucial by various Wikipedia editors, evident in its presence in comparable driver articles. As previously mentioned, the current lead lacks significant factual content and may mislead readers.
The information I incorporated aligns with Wikipedia's core content policies—WP:NPOV, WP:VERIFY, and WP:NOR. Citing sources within the article corroborates Hamilton's successful tenure with McLaren, evidenced by championship victories, numerous race wins, pole positions, and podium finishes. Notably, an entire paragraph addresses the controversies surrounding the 2021 title loss, underscoring their factual basis. I encourage a review of WP:POVDELETION, which underscores the preference for rephrasing rather than outright deletion of pertinent information. Autoadrenaline (talk) 07:33, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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'Being the only black child racing at his club, Hamilton was subjected to racist abuse'. I think the the word 'black' in this sentence should be changed to 'mixed-race'as he is mixed race, not black. It wouldn't make sense to describe him as 'white' because his father is black, so it shouldn't make sense to describe him as 'black' as his mother is white. Liam-0060- (talk) 20:25, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: Per the source, Hamilton describes being "the only black family." Cerebral726(talk) 20:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
yes but he is wrong to describe himself as black. he isn't - he is mixed race. Liam-0060- (talk) 23:29, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Whether he is wrong or right is irrelevant. Wikipedia follows the reliable sources, and the reliable sources describe him as the only black family, so therefore we must too. But, it is not wrong to describe Hamilton as being black - the source is not describing his ethnicity, it is describing his appereance. Look at the definitions of "black" at the Cambrige dictionary, and you will notice that when describing a person using "black" as a noun (you will need to scroll down a bit) ethnicity doesn't come into it at all - and for none of the relevant definitions is ethnicity a requirement. SSSB (talk) 07:06, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]