Talk:Ken Oosterbroek

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Birth year[edit]

It was previously 1962. I have changed it to 1966, on this basis: in September 1998, Greg Marinovich was shot. Afterwards, the peacekeeper Brian says that he was a peacekeeper at the time when Oosterbroek was killed. They meet up on what would have been Oosterbroek's 33rd birthday, which was established to be on February 14. That means it has to be February 1999, meaning he was born in February 1966. hbdragon88 (talk) 03:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

...Damn it. It says that Oosterbroek would have turned 36, not 33, so he was born in 1963. hbdragon88 (talk) 03:19, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The book is wrong though. 1962 was correct and I just edited it back to this. This year is given in the book about his life and work, The Invisible Line. Marinovich and Silva perhaps misremembered it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.186.3.111 (talk) 18:17, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Friendly fire?[edit]

I'm confused - how was it friendly fire if he wasn't in the military? Derp. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.216.1.76 (talk) 20:05, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

True, public international law assigns the "civilian" status to war correspondents, embedded journalists and independent journalists. The only variation are regarding war correspondents and embedded journalists being treated as prisoner of war when captured. Their equipments (camera, laptop, etc) are considered civilian objects, and can only be targeted if the equipment is used for propaganda promoting serious war crimes.

"As demonstrated above, journalists and media equipment benefit from immunity, the former as civilians, the latter by virtue of the general protection humanitarian law grants civilian objects. That immunity is not total, however. Journalists are protected unless they participate directly in the hostilities for as long as they participate. The media, even if they are used for propaganda purposes, are immune from attack unless they are used for military purposes or to incite people to commit grave breaches of international humanitarian law, acts of genocide or acts of iolence. However, even when those conditions are met, the media cannot be attacked unless all precautions practically possible have been taken to prevent, and in any case to limit, civilian casualties and damage to civilian objects." Source: The protection of journalists and news media personnel in armed conflict, Alexandre Balguy-Gallois (legal adviser to Reporter Without Borders)

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The death of Ken Oosterbroek could be described as a "collateral damage", during a friendly fire engagement. The wikipedia page regarding Friendly Fire confirms this : "inadvertent harm to non-combatants or structures, usually referred to as "collateral damage", is also not considered to be friendly fire." --78.250.70.214 (talk) 14:51, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]