Talk:Keisha Castle-Hughes

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Former good article nomineeKeisha Castle-Hughes was a Media and drama good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
April 1, 2008Good article nomineeNot listed

Recent Work 2009[edit]

Keisha Castle-Hughes starred in the New Zealand TV-film Piece of My Heart (2009) - alongside Rena Owen (Once Were Warriors), Annie Whittle (World's Fastest Indian) and Emily Barclay (In My Father's Den). The film was about two heavily pregnant teenagers sent to a Magdalene-type Laundry in the 1960s. This should probably be incorporated in the article somewhere, and also into Emily Barclay's article. The role is of particular note because: Castle-Hughes herself is a teenage mother and has some interesting insights about her character's situation, and, because this type of story hasn't really been addressed by New Zealand cinema until now.

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the date January 27 does not seem to be significant. perhaps it should be replaced with simply "In 2004". - Hemanshu 11:13, 29 Jan 2004 (UTC)

There should be more photos of her as Paikea in Whale rider, thats the best movie!!

Is there any link with her character's surname in "Whale Rider", and the name of her character in Star Wars 3, Apailana? They seem to look awfully similar!

  • It's always a possibility that George Lucas created the name of her Star Wars character as a tribute to her character in Whale Rider (her claim to fame); if you look closely a lot of minor characters in Star Wars have names that are either tongue-in-cheek or an homage to something else. --PatadyBag 17:09, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • This is quite possible, given that Keisha's character is never identified on screen by any name. (It's a shame that she and veteran Australian actress/singer Trisha Noble received so much press for their appearances in Episode III only to be relegated to cameos lasting about 5 seconds each...) 23skidoo 06:36, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
[1] and the article over some info on this Nil Einne 08:44, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality[edit]

It says in the article that she is from Auckland,New Zealand.Then it goes on to say that she was born in Western Australia but had her citizenship revoked when she became a New Zealand citizen.Maybe we could put at the introduction that she was born in Australia but now has only New Zealand citizenship.Serenaacw 09:08, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also,this article says that her father is 'english-australian' I ran several google searches and all it says in Keisha's biography is that her mother is Maori and her father was born in Fremantle.Western Australia.Serenaacw 09:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think what they are trying to say is that her father may have been born in Australia but is of English citizenship.

Even if true, it does seem to me to be just a tad over finicky. Does it really matter? Then again the way the article is at pains to try and convince us that Keisha is no longer an Australian citizen also reads just a little odd. To me anyway. I also have doubts concerning the validity of the claim that she no longer holds Aussie citizenship.Ernest the Sheep 10:43, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If her father was born as an English citizen then I don't see anything unusual about calling him an English-Australian. Note we don't know where her father grew up, simply where he was born. Nil Einne 12:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Since we are being finicky, it should be pointed out that there is no such thing as "English" citizenship. If Mr Castle was born in Australia he would be an Australian citizen, not a British citizen.124.197.15.138 (talk) 03:55, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well I was just following what the previous poster said probably tired or not thinking properly at the time. More to the point, there is actually a chance the father could be a British citizen even if born in Australia depending on such things as the citizenship of his parents and how that citizenship was acquired and their marital status and of course when he was born, see for example British nationality law. The father may have also been an Australian citizen which would potentially be independent of the British citizenship. Nil Einne (talk) 21:00, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Youngest Female Academy Award Nominee?[edit]

Anna Paquin won an award at 11. Castle-Hughes would have been 13 when she was nominated. I'm going to remove that bit about her being the youngest ever. Lomaprieta 08:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Er, right. Sorry. Lomaprieta 08:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

She was the youngest person nominated in the lead actress category . Anna paquin was nominated for supporting actress. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.210.227.4 (talk) 12:53, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And Anna isn't the youngest nominee either--Tatum O'Neal was 9 when she won for Paper Moon. 208.185.94.10 (talk) 15:25, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pregnancy[edit]

According to CNN she did not attend the Nativity premiere because she was filming at another location, NOT because of the pregnancy. This should be corrected or a source citeded saying otherwise.

According to NY Times as well: "According to publicists working on the film, Ms. Castle-Hughes did not attend the screening because she is shooting her next movie and would not participate in the worldwide marketing campaign for “The Nativity Story.”" http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/27/movies/27cnd-vatican.html?ei=5088&en=6a64f28349a74b48&ex=1322283600&adxnnl=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1164864025-XtXBYcEgW6qR4ZmH7Ifn1w Although the pregnancy might have made immediate filming a bit more urgent for her next movie. Erstrawb 05:25, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that there is something quite disturbing about this situation.

She had her baby, can some one update ?http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20037203,00.html

Boyfriend?[edit]

I don't know about NZ laws but here in th US if a 16 yo was pregnant by a 19 yo that boy'd be servin' time. What's the deal here? Do the Kiwis not make such a big deal about somethin' I like to call statutory rape?!? -Teofil Bartlomiej 03:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't really related to the article, but statutory rape is relative to the age of consent. In Australia, the age of consent is 16. In the United States, the age of consent is determined state-by-state, with most states having ages of consent between 16 and 18. —bbatsell ¿? 04:44, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The age of consent isn't the only factor. There's usually a gray area that comes into play; in Tennessee, there's a 4-year gap (I believe), meaning that 16 and 19 wouldn't be illegal (whereas 16 and 21 would be). EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's part of age of consent law, though. Here's the text from Tennessee state law: [2] —bbatsell ¿? 05:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, that's just a myth about the 3 yr clause or 4 yr clause or whatever. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.149.236.86 (talk) 04:46, 27 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]
Do come of it Teofil. NZ people are all PC. No one dares to offend teen preggo cases, nor the hoodies that impregnate them.--85.164.222.162 (talk) 09:25, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Legal or not, I think that there is something quite disturbing about this situation.

The age of consent in New Zealand is 16. so no, its not statutory rape. And in cases of statutory rape, charges are only usually pressed if the parents or the individual complain. Those cases are usually with big age differences, not so much if its a 15 yr old and 16 yr old.

And there was an attempt to formalise the age gap in law at 2 years but this was abandoned. However police practice remains the same Nil Einne 12:51, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here in New Zealand the relationship between young Keisha and her slightly older boyfriend is looked upon as quite in order, Bradley Hull is the type of young man most Kiwis would hope their daughter hooks up with; clean cut, gainfully employed, no bad habits, not a filmmaker. The law in this area addresses the concept of power imbalance, so long as each partner is not immensely more, or less, powerful than the other, when it comes to freely consenting to proposed sexual activity, then the absolute age of the teens is not relevant. Overageunderanna (talk) 21:27, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Moral standards in New Zealand have declined even further than in the USA. There hasn't been a prosecution for underaged sex for years. And there was little adverse comment on Keisha's pregnancy. The law doesn't "address the concept of power imbalance". There simply aren't prosecutions unless the girl complains of rape - in which case it is treated as a normal rape charge, not American-style "statutory rape".124.197.15.138 (talk) 04:02, 22 November 2009 (UTC) Yes ,It is not a big deal in NZ if a girl gets pregnant outside of marriage. Currently about 80% of Maori don't ever marry, so marriage is quite rare.(Castle-Hughes is Maori). It is very common for Maori girls to get pregnant at a young age-17 would be considered quite normal among most Maori. It used to be very common for Maori girls as young as 12 to get pregnant but thankfully this is getting less common. Probably related to living a high risk life style,low educational attainment and a number of cultural factors. Maori birth rate is higher than non Maori but it has gradually fallen over the last 2 decades. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.62.226.243 (talk) 22:48, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Colbert...[edit]

Stephen Colbert just started a rumor that the baby is going to be born by Christmas. Brace for vandalism, perhaps... EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it's already been vandalized, Some one may want to roll this page back to a previous version, and a vandalism block should be in order Zippedpinhead 04:47, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody beat me to it. EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:49, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
ok, now it is protected. But -- unfortunatly -- with false information. Someone able to edit the article should change the last edit made. 87.162.182.38 15:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Done. -- Kicking222 15:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Colbert's people have already gotten here... no truth to the December 25th date... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.149.159.200 (talk • contribs) 21:50, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Citizenship?[edit]

It says in the main article that she lost her Australian citizenship under the now repealed section-17 of the Australian Citizenship Act. Well I followed the link to the relevant article in wikipedia and as far as I can tell that section of the act applied to adults only. So my understanding of the situation is that Keisha probably still holds Aussie citizenship. But if anyone knows better or has any different thoughts on the matter? Ernest the Sheep 09:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No feedback on this yet? Assuming the wikipedia article on Australian citizenship is correct and factual, then I am pretty sure that her Australian citizenship is still valid. If this is indeed the case then the article certainly needs correcting.Ernest the Sheep 10:43, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Potentially she lost it under section 23 after her parents lost theirs under section 17 Nil Einne 12:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ernest the Sheep, I think you are quite right. I have removed the claim she lost Aussie citizenship. Nil Einne, you may be right too but I don't have sufficient information to be sure. Robert Brockway 02:48, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article review[edit]

I am reviewing this article, as it has been nominated as a Wikipedia Good Article. If you have any views about the page, please leave them here. I will check back in 24 hours before moving ahead with the review. I have emailed Keisha's official website to try and get a photo for the page, but that might take some time - and come to nothing. --Seahamlass (talk) 11:04, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


GA Review[edit]

This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of April 28, 2024, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Fail
2. Factually accurate?: Neutral
3. Broad in coverage?: Fail
4. Neutral point of view?: Pass
5. Article stability? Pass
6. Images?: Fail


A solid start has been made to this article, however there is a great deal to be done before it can be considered as a GA. If you take a look at the Wikipedia Emma Watson article, you can get an idea of just what can, and should, be written about a young actress.

For example:

  • Far more is needed on Keisha Castle-Hughes' background, and the confusion, as detailed on this talk page, over her nationality situation should be cleared up. The lead is also far too short, and should ideally include more about her early life and career.
  • More detail, and references to back up the facts, are needed about her family too, as well as clarication over her father's nationality. He is either English with Australian roots or Australian with English roots, but not "English-Australian."
  • The very short section on her career simply dives into her appearance in the film Whale Rider as an 11-year-old. There is no background information on how she got the role, what filming was like, etc. This needs much more detail, and far more references.
  • The same goes for the paragraph on her film projects since Whale Rider. She has made several films, yet there is hardly anything written about them.
  • There are no images, and although this is not a criteria for passing GA, it would make the article look brighter.

When these issues are addressed, the article can be renominated. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it have it reassessed. Thank you for your work so far.

I don't see how English-Australian is such a big problem when it's even mentioned in our English Australians article but I guess the alternative is to just remove the hypen. Of course, it does need to be supported properly by WP:RS preferably showing self identification. Nil Einne (talk) 21:04, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article 'critique'[edit]

Your nomination of the article is going to have to be a none-issue for some time to come, I'm afraid .... So little can be gleaned about Keisha but I have read articles in some entertainment magazines about her in the past. An especially good article was written right after "Whale Rider", and the DVD has an interview with Keisha.

So it's all very thin. Not a lot has been stated or written about her life, and I'm sure everyone has found that out in the last few years. I do not recall where I read the articles, and have only had the additional pleasure of seeing her in "Blueburger".

Meanwhile, I think this article must remain a work-in-progress as it is now.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.21.153.249 (talk • contribs)

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