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A news item involving Kathleen Byerly was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 13 September 2020.

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A fact from Kathleen Byerly appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 October 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Kathleen Byerly was one of six sailors who sued the U.S. Navy for the right to serve on ships?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/October. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kathleen Byerly.

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Retirement?[edit]

I'm presuming that she's retired, but I can't find a date. Can anyone provide a link or something? Asarelah (talk) 14:26, 30 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Surname confusion[edit]

At first, I thought it was a typo in surname. Bruyere or Byerly. Wikipedia file name should use the surname from obituary (Captain Kathleen Mae Donahue Bruyere). My comment.SWP13 (talk) 15:36, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NAMECHANGES: Sometimes the subject of an article will undergo a change of name. When this occurs, we give extra weight to reliable sources written after the name change. If the reliable sources written after the change is announced routinely use the new name, Wikipedia should follow suit and change relevant titles to match. The article was originally created under Byerly, probably due to the Time woman of the year being a claim to notability. But the sources published since 1988 consistently use Bruyere. I created a redirect. If there is consensus to do so we can rename the article, but I'd wait until it is off the front page. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:34, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 01:03, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Byerly as a commander

... that Kathleen Byerly (pictured) was one of the twelve women featured on the cover of Time magazine as Time Person of the Year for 1975? Source: "one of 12 women featured on the cover of Time magazine for a "Women of the Year" (1975) issue" [1][2])
- ALT1:... that Kathleen Byerly (pictured) was one of six sailors who sued the U.S. Navy for the right to serve on ships? Source: "A year later, she and five other female sailors helped clear the path for women to serve on ships and aircraft engaged in combat — assignments previously barred to them under the Women’s Armed Services Integration Act of 1948. The sailors, who claimed their careers and potential promotions were negatively impacted by the policy, filed a class-action lawsuit against the secretary of defense and secretary of the Navy in 1977, and U.S. District Judge John Sirica, of Watergate fame, determined the law was unconstitutional in 1978." ([3])

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Third Punic War
Comment: Has only appeared on RD, not ITN. See Wikipedia talk:Did you know#In the News - Recent deaths

5x expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:01, 15 September 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Hi Hawkeye7, review follows: 7.3x expansion confirmed from 12 September; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; hooks are both interesting, mentioned in the article and backed up by the sources; image is PD and good at small scale; a QPQ has been carried out

there's a few similarities in wording to the Navy Times article, are there any ways of rewording the following:

"liaison between his headquarters and the nine Pacific training commands"
"serve as special assistant to the Chief of Naval Operations for women's policy"
"the first female executive officer of the Navy's New York Recruiting District"
" Orlando Naval Training Center in Orlando, Florida, which processed 30,000 enlistees a year. It had been severely criticized the year before for the manner in which it handled allegations of rape and sexual harassment"

Though I appreciate with many technical terms and proper names it is sometimes difficult to find alternative ways or wording sentences. Otherwise, no issues here- Dumelow (talk) 07:09, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not much I can do about the nouns, but I have reworded these phrases. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 10:01, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed - Dumelow (talk) 11:36, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]