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Don't know how many editors are fully aware of the strict requirements for biographies of living persons (a.k.a. BLP). Biographical material needs to be verifiable and the sources need to be accessible so that the material can be verified. WP:VERIFY: "verifiability means that other people using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source". If a source is restricted by a paywall the information cannot be verified by editors who are unable, or do not want, to pay for access. Pyxis Solitaryyak 09:40, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Katherine Barrell has been quoted saying, "I am attracted to both men and women and the person I fell in love with is a man." I googled the phrase and found many references to it. Is any reliable enough to confirm it? Pacingpal (talk) 05:39, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
With the following quote "I am attracted to both men and women and the person I fell in love with is a man. I wish it could just be about the human I am in love with, not their gender. This is why I am so passionate about advocating for equal acceptance across the spectrum of sexuality. Let’s just love who we love and leave each other alone. The world has bigger problems." 2A00:801:230:F8D6:C82C:29FF:9848:D37 (talk) 06:51, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Let's see: Distractify alleges that Barrell is bisexual, but the link it provides for Diva Magazine is not the interview with Barrell -- so editors cannot verify the quote attributed to her. And Diva Magazine has not made the interview accessible without payment. All that Distractify is offering is hearsay and conclusions; it also insinuates that Barrell's support of the "LGBTQ+ community" is some kind of proof about her sexual orientation. An actor playing a lesbian supports LGBT! whoopee! Well, as I see it, an actor who plays a lesbian and has a fanbase that developed because of it better be supportive of LGBT -- her fan base, bread and butter depends on it. Bi.org, of course, is going to jump on the opportunity to claim that she is bisexual -- yet Bi.org doesn't provide a link so that the rest of us can read for ourselves exactly what Barrell said in the Diva Magazine interview. The https://divamag.co.uk/2019/07/19.... URL links to the cover of the August 2019 issue, not the interview with Barrell. This is a BLP. BLPs are held to strict standards, which includes absolute verification and the quality of sources. Pyxis Solitary(yak). L not Q. 10:42, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I honestly do not understand why you are so aggressive. Distractify has obviously read the interview. Diva Mag also posted an advert on youtube - here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rONs7rxr3Kc for the same interview. I've written to them and asked them to make the interview public for the purpose of Wikipedia to be able to add this information. Distractify is not part of the Wynonna Earp-"fan base". The writer you are raging against obviously did some research and posted links rather than vague pointers to a fan base or rantings and wishes of "Wayhaught shippers".Shieldfire (talk) 06:04, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"The writer you are raging against...." Raging? What's next? Hysterics? I do not give an inch when it comes to BLPs. No conscientious editor will. You and everyone else who wants to add the bisexual orientation needs to absorb the message that BLPs don't use third-hand information for personal biographical details. Get a clue about what the following advisory at the top means:
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Exactly what was she asked in the interview, and exactly what was her entire response from start to finish? Quotes taken out of context are neither credible nor acceptable. Diva knows very well that Wayhaught fandom went nuts when word got out about her alledged 'coming out as bi' in its interview with her. Diva editors aren't stupid. They've kept the interview behind a paywall and stood by while the allegation spread among Barrel's fans, Wayhaught fans, and Wynonna Earp fans. I wouldn't be surprised if someone at Diva is well aware of the Barrell "Diva interview" controversy in her Wikipedia biography. It's amazing that you think taking anyone's word for anything, sight unseen, is acceptable. All Distractify offered is a mirror of what was already circulating among fans, all Bi.org did is circulate the same mirror. It's ridiculous that you and anyone else would think that a link for the magazine cover is a link for the interview. Pyxis Solitary(yak). L not Q. 09:28, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes you are raging. Now I'm involved in this as well, apparently, according to you, I "needs to absorb the message that BLPs don't use third-hand information for personal biographical details." and "It's ridiculous that you and anyone else would think that a link for the magazine cover is a link for the interview.". Take a step back, take a deep breath, and actually read what I wrote - rather than what you think I am writing. I said I wrote to Diva.uk asking them to make the interview public so we can check it.Shieldfire (talk) 13:49, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I got a copy of the interview, it's not online so cannot be checked. Diva Magazine August 2019, "Officer Haught" - p. 37 "Kat is saddened to have received some negative feedback online because of her own marriage. “I am attracted to both men and women and the person I fell in love with is a man. I wish it could just be about the human I am in love with, not their gender. This is why I am so passionate about advocating for equal acceptance across the spectrum of sexuality. Let’s just love who we love and leave each other alone. The world has bigger problems.”"Shieldfire (talk) 15:00, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Since it's about a living person's personal life, we'll all have to wait until what she said can be verified with unrestricted access to the Diva interview. Pyxis Solitary(yak). L not Q. 08:04, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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