Talk:Julian Opie

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Needs photo[edit]

needs photos and when she was born and some of her creations and quotes. (seriously?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.192.37 (talk) 16:42, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above template already includes a request that a photo of him be added. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:36, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

With a mistake like that, We *really* need a picture. 213.106.107.251 (talk) 19:33, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

He has some self-portraits that would work as a photo for the article but I can't upload them as I don't have the copyrights. Josephinabloggs 19 (talk) 16:10, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

hatting possible BLP issue statement (that statement needs sources) Avono (talk) 16:43, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Italic texthe is gay — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.141.133.152 (talk) 16:23, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Editing by Julian Opie himself and employees[edit]

Various edits of the Julian Opie page have been undone or rolled back. A conflict of interest has been cited. In this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Reliable_sources) it states the following

Living persons may publish material about themselves, such as through press releases or personal websites. Such material may be used as a source only if: it is not unduly self-serving; it does not involve claims about third parties; it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the subject; there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity; the article is not based primarily on such sources.

The Julian Opie page could contain more relevant and accurate information. This could be done without being self serving. Julian Opie's studio and staff can more reliably and accurately provide this information than anyone else, plus we can provide up to date images. We will be able to provide information that is well cited and tallies with a number of private and public institutions that show his work.

Please let me know what you think and help us to maintain this page to the best possible extent. JulianOpieStudio 16:40, 7 September 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julianopie (talk • contribs)

I have edited the article to remove unsourced, subjective statements. I've also added references to reliable third party sources such as the National Portrait Gallery, the Tate, and various art magazines. As a result, I've removed the tags placed on the article in August of 2012. Re: the comment above: "Julian Opie's studio and staff can more reliably and accurately provide this information than anyone else". There is nothing wrong with the subject of a biography or his/her colleages or staff constructively participating on the talk page of the subject's Wikipedia biography. They could even potentially directly edit the article itself to correct, say, a reported place of birth or some other factual error (provided they could also provide a reliable reference). Where it gets dodgy is when the editing involves making statements that could potentially be subjective. Julianopie.com is not a reliable source for the statement that "Julian Opie is an influential British artist" -- this could be viewed as mere self-promotion. The Tate is an excellent source for the very same statement, as the institution is precisely in the business of making such evaluative statements, and not just for Julian Opie, but for all British artists. When in doubt, make suggestions here on the talk page and another Wikipedia editor can incorporate them into the article as appropriate. Some things that you could provide that might improve the article:
- place a recent photo of Julian on Wikimedia
- provide a reference for where the studio is located and when it was set up
- any basic information about the artist's personal life (married? children? lives where?)
- any sourced quotes by the artist about his motivation, approach, methods, techniques, choice of subjects, etc.
- any particularly insightful quotes from art critics about the artist's work
- any sourced quotes by the subjects of the portraits on their reactions to the work
- any other activities of the artist (essays, charitable causes, political activism, sports, hobbies, or other details not directly related to art that might inform the reader about the subject of this biography and give them a better sense of the man himself)

Ross Fraser (talk) 20:25, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]