Talk:Judith Resnik

Jewish Label?

Its so offensive that every article about a Jewish person has to specifically state it. So-and-so WHO IS JEWISH... Honestly were not all that special, and unless the religion is a major part of the article, it does not need to be noted. I'm going to remove the reference from this article. We aren't all that special people... Jews are pretty normal people and do not require being pointed out by some anti-semite every second of the day. --24.3.147.203 23:15, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Actually, it's not just Jews. Many members of minority groups get a label attached to them; to invent a couple of examples: "John Smith was the first French explorer to reach the East Pole"-type thing. Or "Micheal Jones is a prominent African-American Lacrosse player, holding several world records". If they strongly identify with their nationality or religion or men's club, it's sometimes hard to avoid labeling. For instance, education references may show a Jewish semenary or Negro college (do they still use that name?) Please realize that there's another side of the coin: there are some people with these strong affliations that complain if you DON'T mention them. CFLeon 21:34, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Jews are hardly a minority group. GW_Simulations_{|User Page | Talk | Contribs | Chess | E-mail} 21:36, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I do not think that word means what you think it means. Kaleja 02:17, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I'm a little curious as to if she was the *first* Jewish astronaut. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.25.146 (talk) 23:26, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Surprisingly, the Soviets claimed that Valery Bykovsky (Vostok 5, 1963) was the first Jewish cosmonaut, so if you mean the first Jew in space, then it seems that she was not, If you mean the first AMERICAN Jew in space, then apparently she was, although I'm sure that you checked geneological charts for previous astronauts, you'd find several with Jewish ancestors. CFLeon (talk) 20:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

It's fine to remove the Jewish label, but just saying she "attended Hebrew school" is even weirder, no? Does anyone know the name of her Hebrew school? ConDissenter (talk) 01:11, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps it was actually part of the name. CFLeon (talk) 20:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

It's important to note that she was the 1st Jewish-American astronaut and she died on Shuttle Challenger during Pres. Ronald(6 letters) Wilson(6) Reagan(6) the "666 1st Beast"/Antichrist. The 1st Israeli astronaut died on Shuttle Columbia during Pres. George Walker Bush (Jr.) the "2nd Beast"/Antichrist. 2603:3020:BE7:A000:3C11:CF7:F598:30A (talk) 16:03, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Elementary School

T_T Okay, who wrote this article? They need to be beaned off the head. There is already an elementary school in Gaithersburg, Maryland named after her. It opened in 1992, current Principal is Dr. Roy Settles.

I SHOULD KNOW. I was in the FIRST kindergarten class as the school, I played on the construction area, I drove past it almost every day of my life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Towson (talk • contribs) 21:08, May 10, 2006

She’s a DOCTOR

Address her as such. DR. RESNIK 72.208.107.51 (talk) 06:05, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Spoken article

I plan to record a spoken version of the article soon. Can someone please moderate the Nichelle Nichols content dispute? It looks like it was properly sourced to a 2014 NASA archives article, but someone removed it. I don't know the protocol. 0101Abc (talk) 15:43, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Nichelle Nichols was hired as part of the publicity campaign for NASA Astronaut Group 8 but Resnik was not recruited by Nichols; this is a misunderstanding. (It was sourced to Space.com, not NASA.) So I removed it. I have Sally Ride up for review at FAC; you might consider that article too. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:30, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Second space flight?

"Her second space flight was mission STS-51-L in January 1986 aboard the Space Shuttle Challenger. She died when it broke up shortly after liftoff."

This seems unsatisfactory; Challenger peaked at about 65 000 feet, which isn't even close to anybody's definition of space. What improvements can be made here? John (talk) 09:16, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

See what you think. John (talk) 20:52, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Looks okay to me. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:41, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Died when the craft broke up?

From the lede She died when it broke up shortly after liftoff. This may not be entirely correct as there is some evidence that Resnick survived the Challenger breakup, as discussed later in the article. She may have survived breakup and died when the crew compartment impacted the ocean. I don't think anyone knows definitively when the crew died. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:11, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Depends on if you interpret that as meaning that her death occurred at the specific moment of break up or simply as part of the consequences of that break up. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 17:25, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Yeah that's the problem. Saying "shortly after the craft broke up" is probably better than "when the craft broke up", since we don't know. Here is a reliable source published last year stating explicitly "it is possible that Resnik and other members of the crew survived the initial breakup, contained in the more structurally robust crew cabin of the orbiter, and died on impact with the ocean." ☆ Bri (talk) 18:20, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

But "shortly after the craft broke up" could be interpreted to indicate simple chronology, not causation. She didn't just die after the craft broke up, she died because the craft broke up. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 18:42, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Space Robotic Arm is called the Canadarm

Please give credit to the Canadian Space agency who designed the space robotic arm. It is called the Canadarm. 96.52.172.59 (talk) 23:51, 1 February 2023 (UTC)