Talk:Joseph Rotblat

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Sir Joseph Rotblat, a Polish physicist who helped design atomic bombs for the Manhattan Project during World War II, won the Nobel Prize for Peace?
On this day...A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on November 4, 2022.

Reasons for family emigration[edit]

"Displays of Polish anti-Semitism that she witnessed during the Warsaw Ghetto uprising embittered Ewa towards Poland, and she petitioned Rotblat to help the family emigrate to England."

At first sounds like nonsensical statements. His family emigrated after the war, when Poland was occupied by communists and Polish-Jewish relationships were charged due to different attitude towards soviets. His family survived thanks to help of some Poles and were afraid of some other Poles. Between 1943 and 1945 there were also Warsaw Uprising. Do you have any serious proof for this statement? ^^^^

Please source these claims[edit]

He was barred from the United States and on departure from New York, his research notes and correspondence mysteriously disappeared. He later discoved in his dossier in the United States a statement that he wanted to join the Royal Air Force so that he could fly to Poland and defect to the Soviet Union.

I'm not saying that these things are untrue, only that they need to be sourced.Grace Note 03:56, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Its in a statement of a student of his, Dr Alan Salmon, contained within a tribute in Insight, published by the University of Liverpool this year. I've put the statement back with a rider. MAG1 13:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Produce the details of the source here, so that it can be verified. And add a footnote. Until you do, it's out. Please don't reinsert disputed edits without providing source details. Grace Note 00:21, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well I don't know what you thought the above message was about. All done, please leave it alone now. It would have been polite to have responded to the last message a bit more temperately. MAG1 20:06, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

British?[edit]

Could editors wishing to add Rotblat to British foo categories and state that he was British please provide a source stating that he was? Grace Note 00:21, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Complete red herring this- Rotblat's handle is a bit of a giveaway. He naturalised as a British subject in 1946. Source added (Nobel prize CV). MAG1 20:06, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

he had polish citizenship too! kowalmistrz

This site isn't correct. Józef Rotblat his whole live protested to be called a british man. He always said that he is a Polish with british passport and protested to be called "Joseph", but Józef

The cited site is opinion, not fact. Rotblat would never have "protested" at being called any particular name. He was "Joseph" to most, "Józef" to contemporary family, "Josh" to younger family and just "Prof" to colleagues. Mesdale (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:41, 26 April 2011 (UTC).[reply]

I am afraid that it is right. I am sure that it might be true that he said he was Polish with a British passport, but he was a permanent immigrant to the UK. He did not use the Polish form of his name (and he could have) after settling in the UK: as far as I have seen for his publications and his work with Pugwash, he used the anglicised version of the name, and this was the name used when he received his Nobel prize. I am pretty certain that Roblat was happy with who he was, but not at all any sort of nationalist, and lived pragmatically. MAG1 22:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Although he was an Ashkenazi Jew and not Polish, there is unfortunately no exact evidence of his ethnic affiliation. --L. Woititz (talk) 21:11, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rotblat had to become a British subject in order to join the British Mission to the Manhattan Project. The US made it a condition that only British subjects were allowed to enter the US and join the project. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.145.115.127 (talk) 19:09, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
They did, but Rotblat refused to do so. He was allowed to participate, but it was a factor in why he left. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:08, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lodz or Warsaw?[edit]

Every source I see (including bios at the Nobel Prize and Pugwash site) mention Warsaw at his birthplace. IF no other source appears, I'll change it. User:Ejrrjs says What? 18:09, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is bomb-proof, so have made the change. MAG1 22:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
He was born in Warsaw (http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1995/rotblat-cv.html)- could someone please change it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.243.253.114 (talk) 18:38, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Free University of Poland,[edit]

Polish Wikipedia says University of Warsaw.Xx236 15:10, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject class rating[edit]

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 10:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nobel Prize[edit]

Why doesn't he have a little gold medallion by his name... he's certainly earned it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.39.212.101 (talk) 08:39, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While I think that's a lovely idea, I don't see any precedence for it. Mesdale (talk) 10:42, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism[edit]

I can't see an edit button on the page and I can't be arsed to create an account, so can someone else remove the "strictly lesbian" vandalism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.96.28 (talk) 21:41, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Photo[edit]

This article once had a better-defined lead photo of Rotblat from a later stage of his life.

It was apparently removed, and his present, poor-quality Los Alamos badge photo reinserted, due to questions of copyright about the later, better-quality photo.

Could someone please locate a better-quality public-domain photo of Rotblat to replace the present poor-quality lead Los Alamos photo?

Nihil novi (talk) 19:48, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Reds under the beds silliness[edit]

At the end of the section detailing his involvement in the Manhattan Project: In 1985, Rotblat recounted how a box containing "all my documents" went missing on a train ride from Washington D.C. to New York as he was leaving the country, but the presence of large numbers of Rotblat's personal papers from Los Alamos now archived at the Churchill Archives Centre "is totally at odds with Rotblat's account of events". This is unencyclopedic for two reasons: selective disregard of the everyday (non-superlative) use of all; and gratuitous use of totally. Aboctok (talk) 10:24, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I will take a look. TrangaBellam (talk) 16:24, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Subdue the Russkies[edit]

This incident is already recounted in the article, but here is another version, from Inside the Centre, Ray Monk's biography of J. Robert Oppenheimer, chapter 13:

Feeling deeply the anxiety aroused by the prospect of the Nazis being first to develop the atomic bomb, Rotblat was an enthusiastic participant in the British Tube Alloys project and was happy to go with the British mission to Los Alamos. In March 1944, however, when he had been at Los Alamos for just two months, he received what he later described as a ‘disagreeable shock’, when, at a dinner party given by the Chadwicks, he heard Groves say: ‘You realise of course that the main purpose of this project is to subdue the Russkies.’ ‘Until then,’ Rotblat said, ‘I had thought that our work was to prevent a Nazi victory, and now I was told that the weapon we were preparing was intended for use against the people who were making extreme sacrifices for that very aim.’ On 8 December 1944, very soon after it had been established beyond all reasonable doubt that there was no danger either of the Nazis winning the war or of them developing the bomb, Rotblat left the Manhattan Project. Despite efforts by the FBI to show that he had been a Soviet spy, he went on to have an outstanding career as a physicist. Feeling betrayed by the use of the atomic bomb against the Japanese, Rotblat devoted himself for the rest of his life to the cause of nuclear disarmament, his contribution to which was recognised by the award of the Nobel Peace Prize in 1995.

2601:644:8501:AAF0:0:0:0:3AB4 (talk) 01:28, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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