Talk:Joseph Clark (painter)

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 02:51, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Joseph Clark gave some of his paintings titles in the Dorset dialect, in which his schoolmaster William Barnes wrote poetry?
Sources: (1) Joseph Clark (1834–1926) Artist in Oils at Dorset Ancestors
(2) William Barnes in Encyclopædia Britannica, archive.org

Reviewed: Exercise Spring Train

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 11:18, 13 October 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Article is new enough, long enough, carefully written with inline references to appropriate sources. Good encyclopedic style! The Earwig tool finds no copyrighted material. QPQ done. The hook is short, properly formatted, and shows a distinctive quirk of this artist. The hook is stated in the article with an inline source. Query about the sourcing of the hook: the hook mentions Barnes' poetry but this isn't mentioned in the source. The source mentions "Barnes style captions" and from context I'm prepared to interpret that as Dorset dialect, but is there a source specifically about Barnes writing poetry in the dialect? MartinPoulter (talk) 11:26, 16 October 2020 (UTC) ~~Note that because of a rogue space, the "Review or comment" link doesn't work and to write a review I had to edit Template:Did_you_know_nominations/_Joseph_Clark_(painter).~~ Problem now fixed, thanks.[reply]

Thanks, MartinPoulter. I noticed the rogue space, I’ll try moving the page to fix it. The source linked after the hook says “Many of his paintings had Barnes’ style captions, such as: Jeanes Wedden Day in Mornen (1879); Farmer’s Woldest Dater (1908) and Wedden Morn (1909).“ Would you like me to try to find another source to spell out that that “Barnes’ style captions“ means Dorset dialect? Jeanes Wedden Day in Mornen is the title of a Barnes poem. Moonraker (talk) 16:52, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Moonraker: I don't need a direct mention of Dorset dialect, but unless I'm missing something, the source doesn't say that Barnes was a poet or that Jeanes Wedden Day in Mornen was one of his poems. Since the hook mentions his poetry I just want to be clear about which source justifies that. I'm sure it's true: just want to be 100% sure which sources this hook (and the statement in the article) is based on. MartinPoulter (talk) 17:17, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, MartinPoulter, that’s fair enough, I have added a new source for Barnes being a poet and writing in the Dorset dialect. The Dorset Ancestors source is referring to "Jeanes Wedden Day in Mornen" as one of Clark’s picture "captions", and the article was only using it as an example of that, but I have now added that it is also the name of a Barnes poem, with a citation. Moonraker (talk) 06:10, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Moonraker: Nice work. That's a hook well and truly sourced and good to go.

MartinPoulter (talk) 12:33, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A fact from Joseph Clark (painter) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 30 October 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Joseph Clark gave some of his paintings titles in the Dorset dialect, in which his schoolmaster William Barnes wrote poetry?

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