Talk:John Ward Westcott

John Ward Westcott was one of the Engineering and technology good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
October 29, 2020	Good article nominee	Listed
February 26, 2023	Good article reassessment	Delisted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 26, 2017.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that John Ward Westcott developed a marine mail system that eventually became the only floating ZIP Code in the United States?

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Picture of John Ward Westcott[edit]

Would be a nice addition. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 01:13, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:48, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:John Ward Westcott/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 20:55, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shall be reviewing for the GAN October 2020 Backlog Drive. MWright96 (talk) 20:55, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Infobox[edit]

The text in the best known and notable work can begin with a capital letter

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:07, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lead[edit]

Wiklink Michigan-Canadian border to the relevant article

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:49, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"and enabled United States Mail delivery to ships 'on the fly' by addressing to the ships name and the only floating postal zip code of 48222." - repetition of "ships"

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:49, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilink zip code to the relevant article

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:49, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"This developed out further in the twentieth-first century by specially designed supply boats" - twenty-first

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:49, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Early life and education[edit]

"He had four brothers (George, Edward, Charles, David) and two sisters (Mary Jane, Susie)" - the parentheses are not needed IMO

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:38, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Career[edit]

"He also developed the first lightship on Lake St. Clair in Michigan. This he did by buying an old flat-bottomed boat and put a light on it as a guiding light for ships on the lake." - consider merging these two sentences together

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilink Detroit River

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"They were range indicators on Windmill Point as a guiding light" - typo; should be There

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Wescott in the 1870s was working in Detroit as agent representative " - as an agent

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"People didn't mind paying this amount," - no contractions per MOS:CONTRACTIONS

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"the service provided shipping trade information and national-international news." - national and international news.

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"The procedure then was that a man in a rowboat was towed out by the Florence B." - The following procedure saw a man

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"it was then rowed to the next oncoming freighter to do the same procedure." - and it was subsequently

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"and by 1972 was accounting for over 700,000 pieces of mail being handled per year." - more than

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Wescott's service meant that ships didn't have to stop and go ashore" - no contractions please

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"to pick up their mail" - collect

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"the SS J.W. Wescott No.1." - the word in bold needs spacing after the period

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"It was renewed on a United States Postal Service contract in 1974. The work was done by non-postal employees of the Wescott Company around the clock seven days a week." -

think these two sentences can be merged together

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"The larger vessels and freighters traveling the Detroit River do not stop in general," - traveling down the

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"As of 2017, the company gets about a third of its income from the post office," - The company currently receives

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life[edit]

"Wescott was an alderman in the fourth Ward in Detroit from 1884 to 1885. He was associated with the Episcopalian church." - consider merging these two sentences together

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:18, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"He was a member in several clubs" - of

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:18, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"In has activities as a ship captain" - his

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:18, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

All mentions of newspapers.com should begin with a capital letter
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:28, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 7 "Neither Fog, Nor Waves" is missing Associated Press as the agency
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:28, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 9 "Mailboat keeps chugging" is missing the author and the page number is wrong
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:39, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 10 "By Water" has the page number 9 not 25
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:39, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 12 "Mail-In-The-Pail Service Begins Its 75th Year" is missing Associated Press as the agency and the page number is 28
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:39, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 14 "Clean Shirt for the Sailor" has the incorrect page numbers and is missing the author
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:39, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 15 "Marine mail operations serves crewmen" and Reference 17 "Code 48222 Zipshape On River Ship" are missing Associated Press as the agency and the page number is wrong
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:00, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 18 "BUSINESS DAY: A Mail Boat Stays Afloat" should not featured all capital letters per MOS:ALLCAPS
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:00, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 19 "Ships To Get Mail Delivery In Midstream" is missing the Associated Press as the agency
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:00, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 22 "Moving Post Office" is missing the Associated Press as the agency and the page number is 5V
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:00, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 23 "Floating Zip Code Remains Active" is missing the Associated Press as the agency and the page number is A2
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:00, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The page number of Reference 24 "Mr. Zip takes to the water on Lake Erie" is missing the page number and the Associated Press should be included as the author
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:00, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 29 "A Mail Boat Stays Afloat" is missing the publication date and The New York Times should be the work not the publisher
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:00, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 30 "Mail Boat Has Own Zip Code" is missing Associated Press as the author and the page number should be in the page= field not the title= field
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:00, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

External links[edit]

Think the last two external links are uneeded per WP:LINKSTOAVOID

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:03, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Will put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address or query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 10:07, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Working Thanks for review. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:24, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@MWright96: All issues have been addressed. Can you take another look. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:03, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Coldwell: Now promoting to GA class. MWright96 (talk) 10:42, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright contributor investigation and Good article reassessment[edit]

This article is part of Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20210315 and the Good article (GA) drive to reassess and potentially delist over 200 GAs that might contain copyright and other problems. An AN discussion closed with consensus to delist this group of articles en masse, unless a reviewer opens an independent review and can vouch for/verify content of all sources. Please review Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/February 2023 for further information about the GA status of this article, the timeline and process for delisting, and suggestions for improvements. Questions or comments can be made at the project talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:36, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]