Talk:John Swinton (journalist)

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Full rewrite[edit]

I put this thing to a full rewrite. There does seem some discrepancy about Swinton's date of birth, but I'm comfortable that 1829 is correct and 1830 is in error. I suppose the number etched on his headstone might trump this, but failing that the preponderance of evidence is for the earlier year. Carrite (talk) 20:36, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

His most famous qoutation[edit]

Most famous quotation of J. Swinton is missing:

“The business of the New York journalist is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and to sell his race and his country for his daily bread.”

John Swinton, Five-minute talk, ` Journalist Gathering,` Twilight Club, N.Y.C., April 12, 1983.” ___ Source: The Great Quotations Pocket BOOK edition, published Jun 1967, page 534 Compiled by George Seldes ISBN: 0-671-80499-5 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.217.86.207 (talk) 11:59, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's what Wikiquote is for, eh? Carrite (talk) 19:43, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, and it’s a proper scandal that the barriers between Wikiquote and Wikipedia were not respected in a Winston Churchill article which contains damning traces of “so much owed by so many to so few,” “we shall fight on the beaches,” “this was their finest hour,” “the end of the beginning,” and “an Iron Curtain has descended.” A stray mistake or two can be forgiven; when it gets this bad, lashes are called for. Albrecht (talk) 21:15, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Upton Sinclair: The Brass Check (1919) http://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/hj/sinclairtbc.pdf is not a primary source and does not name one. Find a source from 1883 and more in Wikiquote. Sinclair writes only: John Swinton, editor of the "New York Tribune" ... answering, at a banquet of his fellow editors, the toast: "An Independent Press" (and was tendered a banquet by his fellow-editors in The Cry for Justice (1915) http://www.bartleby.com/71/1523.html). But this is most probably incorrect and WP's 1880 is pure confabulation. --Vsop.de (talk) 12:58, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]