Talk:John Clifford, 9th Baron Clifford

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DateProcessResult
September 8, 2017Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on October 5, 2017.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Lancastrian lord John Clifford was killed, possibly by an arrow in the throat, while the main Lancastrian army was only a few miles away?
On this day...A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on April 8, 2020.

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Reviewer: Parsecboy (talk · contribs) 18:19, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take this one. Parsecboy (talk) 18:19, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • The introduction is far too short - per WP:LEAD, it should summarize the whole article.
 Done
  • There's some messed up template in the first section - looks like it should be a citation?
 Done
  • Speaking of citations, they're all screwy - you have a mix of long and short citations - per WP:CITEVAR, you should standardize on one style.
  • A lot of duplicate links - there's a tool here you can install to help identify them
 Done
  • I'm not so sure the extended details of Clifford's brothers and sisters are all that relevant here, unless the siblings are otherwise notable (and since they're not linked, I would guess they are not notable). I'd probably limit it to saying he had three brothers and five sisters.
  • Piping Percy–Neville feud to "feud" is a little WP:EGGy
 Done
  • "fighting the Richard, Duke of York" - think the "the" is superfluous here
 Done
  • "Clifford- along with other anti-York peers such as the dukes of Somerset and Exeter- " - those should either be spaced ndashes or unspaced mdashes, not hyphens
 Done (poss)
  • "Westmorland- particularly their caput of Brougham Castle, near Penrith- " - ditto
 Done (poss)
  • "story- which later be repeated by George Edward Cokayne in his Complete Peerage[38]- " - same
 Done (poss)

Parsecboy (talk) 18:53, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for this, Parsecboy- can you take another look? I think I've sorted the dashes (with a script, if that makes a difference), the lede's longer, not sure how to sort the mixture of refs, shame I liked the family background bit, the eggs etc are eaten :) and various spells and typos. Thanks for the help so far. Cheers, — fortunavelut luna 18:39, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have much experience writing biographies, so my take on the family details may not be the right one - it certainly won't be a show-stopper. On the references, probably the cleanest way to do it would be to convert them all to the short citations with harv templates that some of them are already using ({{sfn}} is another option), and then provide the full references below (like I've done here). It will take some work to convert them all over, but the templates aren't really that onerous to use. Parsecboy (talk) 12:52, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Parsecboy: Well, we certainly have consistency of referencing now  :) also a few more random typos cleared- that should be most of them, hopefully. — fortunavelut luna 13:11, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I think it looks good now. Great work! Parsecboy (talk) 14:13, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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