Talk:Jodie Comer

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This needs re-writing[edit]

At the moment it reads as if written by an estate agent selling a house.

'Commenced', 'resides'? No-one uses those in normal language.

Cannonmc (talk) 02:42, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agreed with this comment so I attempted a re-write of sorts replacing some of the language that didn't look right to me. I think the article is still lacking at the moment. Hopefully the page will receive more attention with the current success of 'Killing Eve' and will be improved over time.C3MC2 (talk) 21:21, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Languages?[edit]

In Killing Eve, she appears to speak fluent French and Russian, as well as English with standard American and English accents (in addition to her normal northern English regional accent). Can somebody please add a section describing her language abilities? ---Dagme (talk) 18:56, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jodie Comer does not speak any other languages. She was coached to speak her lines where she speaks French, Italian, German and Russian in Killing Eve. She does not use her own Liverpool accent in Killing Eve. The English accent she tends to use in Killing Eve is RP (Received Pronunciation). She also uses some Americanisms that typically slip into the speech of some non-English speakers when speaking English. She has used a variety of accents in her career so far, including her own Liverpool accent on occasions that may surprise some people who believe that she has never used her own accent before on TV. She has a good ear for accents and says she mimicked the voices of celebrities on TV when she was growing up.C3MC2 (talk) 07:26, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The accent she mostly uses in Killing Eve is Russian. Renard Migrant (talk) 20:47, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Correct. Her character's normal accent is Russian. She gets to use other accents and languages through her character's work. She doesn't have language abilities herself she was able to deliver her lines in a variety of languages with coaching.C3MC2 (talk) 18:44, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Add an image[edit]

Can someone find a licensed image of Comer and add it to her info box. She is too well-known to not have one at this stage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unitedfenty (talk • contribs) 01:40, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation[edit]

How do you pronounce 'Comer'? Renard Migrant (talk) 20:46, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Renard Migrant: Co is pronounced like the "co-" in "co-produce" and mer is pronounced like the "mer" in "mermaid". Stress is on the first syllable. If you write it out in IPA I think it's something like /ˈkoʊmər/. Shuipzv3 (talk) 06:29, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In British English, it would be /ˈkoʊmə/, as there's nothing close to an 'r' in the pronunciation. Renard Migrant (talk) 11:48, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I guess that's down to the r-dropping with non-rhotic accents like the Scouse accent. Shuipzv3 (talk) 13:03, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jodie says her surname like this in two syllables: 1. "Comb" (what you use for your hair) 2. "e" (not er, it's said like egg without the gs) C3MC2 (talk) 18:32, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Image usage[edit]

An image of Jody Comer as the character Villanelle has been reverted by The Mirror Cracked for the following reason: Revert - that's a non-free image that has no rationale for use in this article. [1].

I checked the image:

<fair_use_image_removed>

It was uploaded to Wikipedia on May 30, 2018, and is used in two articles: Don't I Know You? and Villanelle (character). Under the licensing section of the file it says the low res image should qualify as "fair use" under US copyright law.

It's a great image of the subject of the subject of this article in arguably her most famous role. What's the problem?

--В²C ☎ 21:24, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Born2cycle: the image has a very specific fair use rationale: "Primary means of identifying a particular representation of a fictional character." In other words it may only be used when discussing the character of Villanelle, not the actor Jodi Comer, so it may not be used in this article, and absolutely not on this talk page (I deleted it above). Please familiarize yourself with our guidelines on non-free content and the policies that page links to. Thanks, The Mirror Cracked (talk) 21:57, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Mirror Cracked, if the caption appropriately said, "Comer as Villanelle", wouldn't that qualify as a fair use "Primary means of identifying a particular representation of a fictional character?" Why or why not? --В²C ☎ 22:58, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about the actor, not the fictional character, and the fair-use image in Villanelle (character) uniquely identifies the fictional character. A caption cannot rescue an image if there is no specific, accepted fair use rationale. —RCraig09 (talk) 23:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(ed) @Born2cycle: no, because you need a specific fair use rationale to justify the use of that image in this article. See Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline for details, but note: " A separate, specific rationale must be provided each time the media file is used in an article. The name of the article the media file is used in must be included in the rationale." However, it would not be possible to write a compliant fair use rationale for this image to be used in this article, because it has to say "why the subject can't be adequately conveyed by properly sourced text or using free content media". It is perfectly possible to get a free content photograph of Comer, since she regularly appears in public. Therefore you cannot justify using a non-free image of her in this article. The Mirror Cracked (talk) 23:11, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I get it. Let me just say, with apologies for the tangent from this article, but this is where it arose, especially since WP is not a commercial enterprise, that policy seems totally nuts to me. I honestly don't understand the reasoning behind it. Has WP ever been sued for publishing copyrighted material? --В²C ☎ 23:24, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The opening sentence of the article I pointed to you sums it up "Wikipedia's goal is to be a free content encyclopedia, with free content defined as content that does not bear copyright restrictions on the right to redistribute, study, modify and improve, or otherwise use works for any purpose in any medium, even commercially." More details at: Wikipedia:Non-free content#Explanation of policy and guidelines The Mirror Cracked (talk) 23:35, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion[edit]

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:

Jodie Comer.jpg

You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. —Community Tech bot (talk) 14:53, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Monologue[edit]

Just to explain my recent edits. There was a gap in early bio information that I've tried to fill in. As it was there was no explanation as to how she started acting and where the monologue came from that got her noticed by her drama teacher at St Julie's. The Town & Country Magazine interview says she was attending a local drama school from about the age of 11 and The Two Shot Podcast interview adds more details. For simplicity mention of the drama school seems to have been left out in the past but it's essential they are included because the monologue came from her participation in the drama school who put her into the Liverpool Performing Arts Festival 2006 (she refers to it as the Liverpool Drama Festival) so the drama school appear to have played an important part in her development. The year appears on her CV as 2006, it took place in early March 2006 when she was still 12 years old. She says of the 2006 competition win, "So that's where I first got the buzz for performing in front of people it was the first time my Dad had seen me act and stuff" - Jodie Comer speaking on The Two Shot Podcast C3MC2 (talk) 14:14, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There's a bit more information about Jodie's weekend drama school on the Awards Chatter Podcast she names the drama school as CALS, a theatre school in Belle Vale, the neigbouring district to Childwall.C3MC2 (talk) 19:50, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion[edit]

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:

Jodie Comer during an interview, September 2021 (cropped).png

Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 14:07, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Licensed image[edit]

See User_talk:RCraig09#Jodie_Comer_infobox_image for a discussion of why I think File:Jodie Comer during an interview, August 2021 (cropped).png is properly used. It is a screen shot from video published under a CC license. Commons category is Category:Jodie_Comer.—RCraig09 (talk) 14:37, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life[edit]

The personal life section needs to be taken down because it’s inaccurate which is why I deleted it. Jodie did not delete her twitter because of that situation, she deleted months prior to that in March 2020 and everything was based on rumors. Whoever originally posted that clearly doesn’t know the entire run of things so why can I not edit it? Chanel1234567 (talk) 17:55, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

According to a Reddit comment? Krimuk2.0 (talk) 06:11, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What Krimuk2.0 said. If you have a source confirmed to be from Ms. Comer herself, that would be different. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 13:57, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy with the current edit with no reference to her Twitter account being deleted. It's difficult to produce a source but as someone who watched the interactions on Twitter on 8 March 2020 that led to the deletion I can vouch that that's when it happened. She wasn't very active anyway.C3MC2 (talk) 17:11, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]