Talk:Japanese cultural artifacts controversy

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Untitled[edit]

I copied this from Stolen Artifacts from Asia found in Japan and rewrote it to conform to NPOV. Uncle Ed 14:41, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

red links from article[edit]

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More update?[edit]

Do anyone have updates on stolen Korean artifacts by Japanese? --Korsentry 06:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by KoreanSentry (talkcontribs)

AfD (June 2009)[edit]

I have reviewed this article as a member of the WikiProject Visual Arts because of its long-standing NPOV issue. Despite reasonable efforts, no reliable sources for the claims proposed here could be found. Either the issue is not reflected in reliable sources, or the topic is in fact non-notable. Since the AfD discussion two years ago there would have been ample time to fix the article. As it stands (1) the article relies on a single Web-source that does not satisfy WP:RS, (2) it therefore contains unverified claims, (3) the community of Wikipedia editors has not been able to fix the article's problems, which have existed since its creation in 2005. The article violates WP policy and should be deleted. Enki H. (talk) 22:40, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What should the title of this article be?[edit]

It seems that this article has survived another AfD. However, it was also proposed that the title be moved to something, presumably because the current title is a bit too POV. Any suggestions? Unschool 23:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article looks good but the title is misleading because the cultural artifacts aren't Japanese! Drawn Some (talk) 13:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, I can't believe I never thought of that. That's a really good point. Okay, so let's brainstorm--what are some possible titles for this article? Unschool 15:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Joint discussion on page move[edit]

Anyone interested in moving (or not moving) the title of this article should go to renaming Nazi plunder, where I have begun a discussion. Unschool 17:38, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Misuse of source[edit]

I saw that an editor had changed from 100,000 to 200,000 the cited estimate of the number of artifacts stolen by the Japanese since 1905. I decided to see what the article stated. Guess what? It doesn't say either! It lists a few collections by some individual Japanese, but none of these exceed 2,000; if you add up all that are mentioned, it comes to far less than 10,000. I'm sure that there were many more, even perhaps hundreds of thousands more, but don't legitimize a figure with the citation that doesn't support it. I'm changing it to something that the source will support. Unschool 17:14, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"From the late 19th century until Japan's defeat in World War II, Japanese colonial officials and private collectors amassed at least 100,000 artifacts and cultural treasures from all corners of the Korean peninsula."[1] HrafnTalkStalk(P) 17:47, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, I read that twice before my post and still somehow didn't see it. Thanks for being my eyes, and I presume you've made the correction to the article, as well. Unschool 18:38, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]