Talk:Ivan II of Moscow

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Old talk[edit]

I've heard Ivan II described as "Ivan the Red". Mistake here? Trekphiler 04:31, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the same mistake as in Red Square. The word "krasnyi" stood for "handsome" at those times. --Ghirlandajo 07:29, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes - and not "Красивый" but "Красный" - "Красный" has two meanings - "red" and "beauty". In contemporary Russian people say rather "Красивый" for "beauty" - but "Красный" is still in use in poetry and literature. Anyway - the official name of Ivan II in all textbooks is "Красный" not "Красивый". See for example [1].Polimerek (talk) 11:21, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]