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Interesting article! If you're looking for additional articles to continue to expand the article, here's a few, SL93. -- Zanimum (talk) 01:06, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Zanimum Thank you so much. SL93 (talk) 02:58, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

First film of its kind[edit]

The reliable source says that it's the first film of its kind to provide educators with information on how to prevent discrimination against people who are gay. Don't add original research that states its the first such film in the United States instead because that is original research without a reliable source. SL93 (talk) 18:03, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-FAC gratuitous feedback[edit]

Interesting topic:

lead needs to be larger

I'd split Summary and background into a Background and Synopsis sections.

There is little background currently - what was happening at the time, why did the filmmakers decide to make the film. Some information about discrimination at the time.

Legacy? Has anyone later cited it as an influence? Did it lead to any changes in curriculum in schools anywhere?

Why did they make a shorter and longer version? (I can guess but would be important to cite and include)

Northern Lights International Film Festival?[edit]

The Northern Lights International Film Festival is cited in the lead, but it does not appear to have an article. What is it? I'm skeptical that a festival could be simultaneously not important enough to be notable and important enough to warrant mention in the lead of a film that got a number of other awards. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 02:59, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sdkb It's this. I only added it because theleekycauldron suggested adding all of the film festivals where it won awards during the FA review. SL93 (talk) 03:07, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that when I googled but assumed it was something different, since that's an Australian festival that seems to have had its inaugural incarnation in 2019, whereas the source you cite for it here is from 2018. Are we mixing up different festivals? Why would they be honoring an American film from the 2000s? Did it post its winners anywhere online? If it's so janky that it doesn't have a meaningful online presence, I don't think it's likely to be due for the lead (or TFA blurb). If it is a different notable festival, though, there should be some better record of it somewhere. Can you look into this and sort it out? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 03:17, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sdkb I could just remove it from the article entirely and I was only taking a suggestion to add all film festivals. I honestly just don't want to deal with a very minor part of the article after a DYK, a GA, and now a FA passing. SL93 (talk) 03:20, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but FAs, particularly those appearing as TFAs, are expected to be comprehensive per WP:FACRIT 1b, and this relates to that. There's also this festival in Belarus that goes by the same name (and also seems unlikely to have been the one referred to?). {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 03:45, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sdkb Well, I highly doubt the article would be demoted because of one film festival. I realize that about comprehensiveness, but you mentioned undue weight about the lead and blurb. So why can't that apply to the whole article? SL93 (talk) 03:51, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And it's already out of the lead and blurb at the moment. SL93 (talk) 03:21, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I moved it from the lead although I'm not sure if it matters because the content is in the body of the article. I replaced it with a wikilinked award. SL93 (talk) 03:14, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Helen Cohen[edit]

Is Helen Cohen notable enough for her own article? Thriley (talk) 16:24, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That draft fails WP:A7. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 18:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]