Talk:Isopogon anemonifolius

Red new growth in winter...

Dammit, I can't find a RS for this, even though I seen it with me own eyes I tells ya....anyone got one? (Eliot & Jones does not specify the time of year...) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:09, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Rowell has "leaves...becoming reddish-purple in winter", Native Plants : The Definitive Guide to Australian Plants has "leaves... with purplish tinge in winter" with no mention of new growth. What does Elliot and Jones say?--Melburnian asdfasdfasdfasdfasfsadf(talk) 22:19, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

It mentions reddish growth but doesn't specify winter/cooler months. above looks good to add. And looking at some plants it might be that some older leaves turn reddish too. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:52, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 16:35, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

After a thorough read I believe this article is an excellent effort. Here are my comments and suggestions for this.

Lead

• In occurs naturally in woodland, open forest... In --> It

done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:08, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

• Its height usually ranges between 1 and 1.5 metres... Conversion template needed here.

added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:08, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

• Isopogon anemonifolius grows readily in the garden... I think it would be better if we have the whole name Isopogon anemonifolius only at beginnings of paragraphs, and use I. anemonifolius everywhere else. It looks good, as I have seen in other articles. If you agree with this then please implement this consistently throughout the article.

I've oscillated between unabbreviate at the start of sentences to unabbreviate on start of paras only. I need to check if there is a consensus on this somewhere. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:08, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Well I went through this once again and made a few changes where I found the mention of the whole name somewhat repetitive. I think this is no more of a problem now. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 10:00, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

I went looking - not much on wiki but did find Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Organisms#Abbreviating, which seems to reflect consensus elsewhere.[1][2][3][4][5], so that solves it. I'll abbreviate more from now on.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:11, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

That would be good! Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 04:07, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

• A long-lived plant, I. anemonifolius resprouts.. Do mention the lifespan in the lead as well.

added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:08, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Description

• ...though some leaves undivided. ... some leaves are ...

added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:10, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

• The seed-bearing nuts are small—up to 4 mm across... Needs conversion template.

added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:10, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

• Link shrub, stigma, anthers and cone.

linked first three, the fourth is annoying as the nearest grammatically is conifer cone...and this ain't no conifer. Most accurate is infructescence, which I have chosen, but does need some cleanup. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:43, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

• Isopogon anemonifolius grows as a woody shrub to 1–1.5 m (3 1⁄4–5 ft) in height, though is restricted to around 50 cm (1 3⁄4 ft) on exposed heaths and headlands. I am curious to know the reason behind this exception. It would be great if you could suitably explain this in the article.

It'll be exposure to the weather. Will see if I can find a source that covers it Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:43, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Taxonomy

• ...at Botany Bay in 1770 on Cook's first voyage. I guess it would be better to say "on the first voyage of Captain James Cook."

tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:00, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

• If you say Richard Salisbury was an English botanist and identify many others as well, you could also add something on Daniel Solander and George Bentham for the sake of consistency.

added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:00, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

• Who are Robert Brown and Ferdinand von Mueller?

added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:00, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

• Robert Brown had written of the genus Isopogon ... Transactions of the Linnean Society in 1810. Any source for this?

yes/added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:00, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

• His variety ceratophylloides is now a separate species, I. petiolaris. Any source for this?

,:yes/added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:00, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

• Link described (scientific description), Port Jackson, Mount Victoria, Hornsby (at least specify the location for the latter two).

first one mentioned as Sydney distict - cant link to Port Jackson as it historically meant the district. linked last two. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:00, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Distribution and habitat

• "Heathland" is a duplicate link.

delinked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:00, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

• Typical woodland trees it is associated with include... It would be interesting if we could have more information about the ecological associations of this species with the species mentioned in this sentence.

Ecology

• Note my third comment under "Lead". We need to pay special attention in this section.

Now resolved. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 10:00, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

• Conversion templates needed in many places.

I did three, but "0.173 cm per existing cm" is merely a ratio - do you really think we need "0.173 in per existing in" in brackets after it? Tricky..... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:16, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

I don't think it is needed for ratios. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 04:07, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Cultivation

• It is hardy to frosts and dry spells, though flowers more with extra moisture. I have never seen "more" as a verb. Sorry if I am wrong but did you mean something else here?

Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:36, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

rejigged Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:38, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Okay so just two points remain. Well, they are not issues, rather they are suggestions and they have nothing to do with this GAN. Thus this article is promoted to GA status. So Cas Liber I hope you will follow my two suggestions on improving the informativeness of the article and best of luck with its FAC if you are planning it! Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 04:07, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

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vandalism

this page is being incorrectly edited... the first sentence is an example, "in russia in the world" but this plant is only native to Australia morsontologica (talk) 01:37, 30 April 2020 (UTC)