Talk:Isaac Singer

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Jewish[edit]

do they really think his parents only might have been of Jewish descent? With names like Adam Singer and Ruth Benson, and being all from New York? I always thought Singer was Jewish... 79.69.116.99 (talk) 08:22, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Reisinger was from the State of Saxony in what is the Federal Republic of Germany today. His religion was Jewish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.157.45.240 (talk) 16:57, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Isaac Singer was ethnic Jew. Jewish Name "Isaac" and Jewish Surname "Singer". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.246.222.125 (talk) 14:32, 1 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Absolute nonsense. Issac is only used by Jews? Give me a break. Isaac is commonly used in the English speaking world. As for his original last name(Reisinger) last name it's seems to be used among both Jews and Germans. Singer too is not necessarily a Jewish name despite it being common among Jews.

This is ridiculous and I'm removing that sentence. Unless anyone can find any certain proof that he was Jewish it should be left out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HBBorges (talk • contribs) 19:16, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

He may have been ethnically Jewish but it does not automatically follow he was practising Judaism. (Religion seems to have had no impact on his marital lifestyle.) Having seen his family tombstone in Torquay Cemetery, I can tell you it has no Jewish symbols and is not in a dedicated Jewish burial plot. There needs to be evidence he was practising in adult life.Cloptonson (talk) 18:31, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Neither the biblical "Isaac" nor the German "Singer" are characteristic of specifically Jewish persons. (Then Newton would have to be Jewish.) Singer was born the eighth child of the millwright Adam Reisinger. As he himself said in an interview in 1853, his parents were of "German origin". In 1803 they had immigrated to the USA from the Palatinate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8109:B00:4776:50D7:6A07:F8AD:ED68 (talk) 16:00, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"He may have been ethnically Jewish but it does not automatically follow he was practising Judaism."

Whether he was a practicing Jew is irrelevant, as to whether he was a Jew. Like millions of other Jews, I am not a practicing Jew, yet I am 100% a Jew. 2603:7000:B23E:3056:F960:98B4:DE91:9D91 (talk) 13:43, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Isabelle and Reubsaet[edit]

Removed this anon contribution until someone can verify it and also write it in complete sentences:

Not a belgian musician Victor Reubsaet, but Nicolaas Reubsaet a dutch musician from the town Sittard, see

http://www.historiesittard.nl/presentaties/wandelingcultuurdragers/dia17.html

Victor Reubsaet was his father.

--Decumanus 19:00, 2004 Dec 27 (UTC)

Source for Isabelle's 2nd and 3rd marriage is the article "Nicolaas Reubsaet" in the Dutch book "Sittardse cultuurdragers 1299-1999". Nicolas was Reubsaet's actual first name, but Victor can probably be considered his artist name. At least one of his titles was false, maybe both. His father was a simple shoemaker. Brandenburger (talk) 10:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discrepancy with birthplace[edit]

The Isaac Singer page says he was born in Pittstown, NY, but the page for Utica, NY says that Singer was born in Utica, something something.

--Mike 15:51, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kaybeesquared (talk) 21:11, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Another source ISBN9781473687912 says his birth place was 'Schaghticoke, NY'

Can someone search American birth records or find a definitive answer?

Why is info about his marriages and children under the financial section? Shouldn't there be a seperate section?

The Biography section is scrambled. The first two paragraphs are identical except for the name of the woman. "Who" is misused in both paragraphs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.64.106.73 (talk) 12:19, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the sources appear to say Pittstown (which is in fact right next to Schagticoke). He grew up in Oswego, so they may have a claim to being his "boyhood home", anyways. Is there a reason we shouldn't just say Pittstown for birthplace? Brianyoumans (talk) 22:30, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Wine auction[edit]

Not worthy of comment in the main article, but perhaps of interest to a passing researcher, might be an auction, by Messrs. Christie, Manson & Woods, on 23 June 1879, of “The Choice Cellar of Wines of Isaac Merritt Singer, Esq., Deceased, late of Oldway, Paignton, South Devon; Consisting of About Six Hundred Dozens, And Comprising Old Pale Sherry, of Gonzalez' Shipping; Vino de Pasto, of Domecq's Shipping; Old Bottled Ports, Shipped by Dow and Martinez; Two Hundred Dozens of Claret, St. Julien of 1874, St. Estephe of 1874, and Cos. D'Estournel; Richebourg of 1870; Chablis of 1872; and a small Quantity of Hock and Champagne; Fine Old Scotch and Irish Whisky, and other Spirits and Liqueurs”. (My pictures 18864-9.) JDAWiseman (talk) 19:09, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sources to improve the article[edit]

Singer and His Wives - Very interesting article as published in the Oregon City Enterprise newspaper on August 15, 1878. I found it while researching a {dead-link} elsewhere and hope it helps out a future editor make this better.

An Australian newspaper mentions his death and will in Dec 1875. It has some conflicting details, particularly in stating that he had 32 children, and that none of his four wives after his original were unhappy. See https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/210997225

More details needed for citations[edit]

I found some more information confirming content and also disputing some of the timelines in ISBN9781473687912 and have edited accordingly where possible, see talk above re place of birth disputed. I have put in citation required template throughout for material without inline source, not in that book, in the sections about his life and family. Some more work to do from that source on the business growth. Can others find citations for the content already provided?

Kaybeesquared (talk) 22:15, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

impact on garment industry[edit]

Added context on the resultant mass production and on women then up to date on sweatshop factory fires. Still not enough citations, or can others add citations to the biographical details?

Kaybeesquared (talk) 11:39, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

With respect, please have regard to the context, it is a biographical article about a man who died in 1875. Is it really relevant to add material that postdates by over a century Singer's lifetime, and also does not concern his firm? The material would have more pertinence in an article about the history of the firm, the industry or about industrial health and safety rather than his biography. It may give an impression the article has been hijacked for protest purpose. Would Singer have foreseen these anyway?Cloptonson (talk) 18:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

+1 to the previous comment - very worthy topic but doesn't strictly belong here. If we have a general article on the industrialisation of garment manufacture that might be worth linking to? Dichohecho (talk) 13:47, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]