Talk:Indian Ocean slave trade

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Annual figures for the trade[edit]

The article says "17 million as the total number of people transported from the 7th century until 1920, amounting to an average of 6,000 people per year". But 17M/(1920 - 600) = 13k not 6k, so something is amiss. Shouldn't it be 13,000 per year? Daycot (talk) 20:48, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct. But the error is in the original source. That source (itself the review of a book which appears to be only in French) does mention that the 17 million is comprised of 9 million via the Sahara, 4 million via the Red Sea and 4 million from the East African coast. If the latter two were considered 'Indian Ocean' then that would amount to 8 million, which is approx 5,700 per year. I have altered the text accordingly, and added in the estimate of 9 million over the Sahara, just for clarity. LastDodo (talk) 11:44, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

End?[edit]

There is nothing here about when or how the Indian Ocean slave trade ended. Not even a sentence. Someone with knowledge should add something at the end ideally. LastDodo (talk) 11:26, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Indian Ocean slave trade was one route that provided slaves to Slavery in Saudi Arabia and Slavery in Oman, were slavery was not abolished until 1962 and 1970 respectively.--Aciram (talk) 21:06, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

History[edit]

East African kingdoms — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.210.155.1 (talk) 19:30, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Bookku (talk) 03:51, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Gillard, Susannah. "'I wish to remain in Bombay': Testimony of liberated enslaved women in 19th century". Scroll.in. Retrieved 2023-03-12.

European Indian Ocean slave trade[edit]

The text says: Slave trade occurred in the eastern Indian Ocean before the Dutch settled there around 1600. The volume of this trade is unknown. European slave trade in the Indian Ocean began when Portugal established Estado da Índia in the early 16th century. From then until the 1830s, c. 200 million slaves were exported from Mozambique averagely and similar figures have been estimated for slaves brought from Asia to the Philippines during the Iberian Union (1580–1640).

The figures are doubtful, especially without any source and reference. It is not clear what "averagely" should mean. "Similar figures have been estimated..." without a reference to a source is as bad as it can get regarding facts ... 93.237.20.189 (talk) 09:28, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Misused Evidence for Claim[edit]

"Ibn Battuta met a Syrian Arab girl from Damascus who was a slave of a black African governor in Mali. Ibn Battuta engaged in a conversation with her in Arabic. The black man was a scholar of Islam and his name was Farba Sulayman. He was openly violating the rule in Islam against enslaving Arabs. Syrian girls were trafficked from Syria to Saudi Arabia right before World War II and married to legally bring them across the border but then divorced and given to other men."

Here an anecdote from the 14th century traveller, Ibn Battuta, is used to explain the trafficking of Syrian women to Saudi Arabia in the 20th century. This information is not entirely relevant, but is misplaced. Moreover, Ibn Battuta's accounts do not confirm that the girl was in fact Muslim, but the source is cited anyway.

The sectioned needs to be restructured and the claim that the Arican governor was violating the rule in Islam needs to be fact checked. Aadyaagrawal (talk) 05:07, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Aadyaagrawal thanks for pointing out. Agree that section needs closer look and may need some restructuring for better clarity .

As of now tried to divide paragraph and mention century for better clarity. Bookku (talk) 10:27, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[:3-1] Gillard, Susannah. "'I wish to remain in Bombay': Testimony of liberated enslaved women in 19th century". Scroll.in. Retrieved 2023-03-12.

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