Talk:Ibn Ashir

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Notability, confusion with another Ibn Ashir(?)[edit]

There is an Ibn Ashir who lived in the 14th century and was buried in Salé, who is described in a fairly detailed entry in the Second Encyclopedia of Islam (see volume 3, p.719, here). This edit by a now-banned editor, which added unreliable sources and information not even supported by those sources, is clearly confusing it with that 14th century Sufi and thus made a mess. I've reverted it.

But that being said, the original stub is still unsourced. So although the intention appears to be a description of someone totally different, it's very possible that this 16th-century Ibn Ashir is not notable or much less notable than the 14th-century Ibn Ashir. For those reasons, if someone wants to change the topic of this article to the 14th-century Sufi by the same name, with proper sources this time (aforementioned Encyclopedia of Islam is a good start), then frankly that seems justified. It would require minor corrections to the article(s) and template(s) that link here, but otherwise would be easy to do. R Prazeres (talk) 05:52, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PS: If helpful, other sources discussing the 14th-century Ibn Ashir include: Historical Dictionary of Morocco, Biographical Encyclopaedia of Sufis. A source mentioning the 16th-17th century Ibn Ashir is Islamic Intellectual History in the Seventeenth Century. R Prazeres (talk) 05:59, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]