Talk:Hurricane Sam

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Text and/or other creative content from this version of 2021 Atlantic hurricane season was copied or moved into Draft:Hurricane Sam with this edit on September 28, 2021. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Article created[edit]

I have published the draft I had been working on per the consensus at 2021 Atlantic hurricane season. This is not an entirely complete article and only currently has the NHC's discussions. There are external sources I plan to include at a later time, but I believe the current article should suffice for now. Noah^Talk 01:45, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thats fine noah. we can include its peak intensity as a possible sub heading due to it being certain for the time being. However a few things we could add are IR Gifs of its peak or it becoming a major hurricane Maybe a radar gif could work as well HavocPlayz (talk) 20:23, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wordy Sections[edit]

I think that the three sections are too wordy. For example, the Origins, development, and peak intensity should be changed to Metrological History. Can you find replacements for the other two sections? Abowlingbulb (talk) 00:12, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Abowlingbulb: This is a meteorology-based article, so each section details a specific part of the storm's existence. Noah^Talk 00:44, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It being split into sections lightens the workload and allows us to enter more detail into the article. However this is an evolving article and its gonna be worked on as time goes on. Its TCR should hopefully be out early next year or in the next month HavocPlayz (talk) 20:25, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This storm is like some strong, never threatened land storms, so the main purpose is the metrological history Thingofme (talk) 01:51, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Time being at least. its extratropical portion likely did effect Iceland and a few northern countries but nothing mainstream or official has mentioned them really making it difficult to include HavocPlayz (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:23, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article Nomination[edit]

@Severestorm28: As the creator, I oppose any nomination as this article will be incomplete until the TCR comes and external sources are added. Noah^Talk 21:46, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurricane Noah: Ok, do I remove the tag? Severe storm 28 21:47, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the nomination. Severestorm28, if you aren't a significant contributor to an article, you shouldn't nominate it for GA status without consulting with those who are (for example, on the article's talk page) to see whether it's ready. It sort of happened informally here, but please consult first next time. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:50, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@BlueMoonset: Thank you for the advice (and the removal). Next time, (in the future) will do so. Severe storm 28 21:52, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Record that should be added to the article[edit]

On October 1st, 2021. Hurricane Sam became the strongest and easternmost hurricane, so late in the year. https://twitter.com/philklotzbach/status/1443905715865669634?s=20&t=D0Jq4OvRGTo-c3gCf5WA1g

}} 2607:FEA8:BEE7:8600:D8E5:D177:5745:3780 (talk) 20:02, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There would need to be a more reliable source than a personal Twitter account to include it. TornadoLGS (talk) 04:24, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Would this do? "Not only did this make it the strongest storm of the 2021 Atlantic season to date, but meteorologists noted that it is very rare for a Category 4 or 5 hurricane to form that far east or south this late in the season. The only other hurricane on record to do so was Lorenzo in 2019. Sam’s rate of intensification was the highest on record that far east in the Atlantic this late in the calendar year."

https://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/news/earth-orbit-hurricane-sam-powers-across-the-atlantic

Yes. Since it's direct from an official source, that is reliable enough. TornadoLGS (talk) 19:18, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.51.100.1 (talk) 20:19, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect colour for SSHWS Category[edit]

Sam's category is displayed In red, which would be for a 5, not a 4. TropicalCyclone101 (talk) 10:26, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TropicalCyclone101: The color scheme for hurricane categories has been changed. See the (very lengthy) discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Weather#RfC: Changing the color scheme for storm colors to make it more accessible. TornadoLGS (talk) 17:37, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TornadoLGS My apologies, I wasn't aware of this. Thank you. TropicalCyclone101 (talk) 22:34, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]