Talk:Hurdling

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Question[edit]

One question: Why is there 110m for men and 100m for women ?


The event requires athletes to hurdle over 10 hurdles The spacing for the mens hurdles are too long for the women.

Thats why they run 100m as oppose to 110m

History Section?[edit]

Question: What are the origins of the Hurdles? Is it an original Greek event?

- It would be nice to have a bit more history on it, I think (as a complete outsider to hurdling). I also wonder whether the mention of some history in the introductory paragraphs (i.e. something about 1902 and Spalding company?) would be better somewhere else or omitted... Lordjim13 (talk) 15:50, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Switching Lead Legs[edit]

While the ability to switch lead legs may give you more flexibility in a race, it will also nearly always cause you to lose. No one can two-stride the high hurdles, so a four-stride hurdler is at a disadvantage to the three-stride hurdlers. Switching lead legs may give one an advantage in the intermediate hurdles, but I used to run thirteen strides between hurdles in the intermediates and I never lost to anyone who was doing fourteen or more strides.Primium mobile 21:01, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

3-stepping is a *requirement* for competitive high hurdling, thus switching lead legs for competitive high hurdling is not possible. Don't even think of 4 or 5 stepping because that is not high hurdling. 76.112.59.203 (talk) 11:54, 1 January 2015 (UTC) DougH[reply]

Picture[edit]

A picture of some one hurdling would improve this article Korandder (talk) 05:26, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Steeplechase?[edit]

Why no mention about or even a link to (3000 meters) Steeplechase? It is somehow similar track & field event, in both the competitors jump over obstacles in the runway. There could be that "Look also" section with a link to it. 85.217.44.122 (talk) 20:57, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Technique vs rules[edit]

user:CFCF has been making a lot of edits to refine this article. That's a good thing. However, this user has written text then dropped numerous citation needed tags to their own text. So its a bad Pavlovian response on my part, but I've followed up to get rid of the unsightly tags. First I corrected the misstatements, then gave a proper source. The obvious, ultimate source on how to conduct a hurdle race is the IAAF Rule Book, which I paraphrased. The quote from the rule book, Rule 168-7 "Each athlete shall jump each hurdle. Failure to do so will result in a disqualification." I used the word jump and found it reverted by this same user. I stipulate, the common phrase most coaches teach their athletes is not to jump a hurdle, but to take it in stride, developing a technique that minimizes time in the air and matriculates horizontally down the track. Discuss that conflict in the prose. Cover that in depth in the technique section. However, in the lede, specifying how the event is to be conducted, following the source as we should here, the rule says "jump" so that is what we should report.

And please, whatever words you write here, on any page of wikipedia. Don't just make them up out of your head and then ask someone else for a source of what you just made up. If you don't know the proper phrasing, if you don't know what you are talking about, first find a source yourself. Look it up on Google. And then work with what the source says. That is wikipedia 101.

I also notice a source added below the internal references, an article or book by Tommie White and George Carty. Great hurdlers of my era. I ran against George many times and he recognized me just a few years ago. I'd love to read the article he wrote. But it is password protected and unavailable to the general public. Can someone help make this source available to the public? Trackinfo (talk) 19:45, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

TrackinfoAs the source is under copyright I cannot make it available to the general public, but send me a Wikipedia mail (so I get your address) and it should be ok to send the article. CFCF (talk) 21:47, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
He's rather explicit concerning jumping as well, a cause for not mastering the hurdles: Not being able to make it over the hurdle without jumping, which requires the heel of the foot to touch before take-off ("flat foot").CFCF (talk) 21:52, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'd also like to add that I can see how it may appear lazy, but my intention was to work more on this article, as well as others on hurdling, and I would have filled the references as I went along, but I understand that this may not be the best way forward. CFCF (talk) 21:59, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Technique[edit]

The act of lifting the lead leg (necessary to clear a hurdle, especially a high hurdle) will rotate the torso and hips in the opposite direction. For example leading with the left leg will twist the hips to the right. This is why it is critical that the hurdler simultaneously extend the opposite hand (arm) forward and towards the lead leg foot. This opposite arm action will realign the torso/hips, keeping them straight, thus maintaining balance and allowing the hurdler to maintain fastest running body mechanics (non twisted torso/hips). 76.112.59.203 (talk) 12:08, 1 January 2015 (UTC) DougH[reply]

The best hurdlers do not think in terms of "jumping over" the hurdles. Rather hurdles are to be "attacked" and "run through" trying to minimize the time spent in the air. 76.112.59.203 (talk) 12:12, 1 January 2015 (UTC) DougH[reply]

A hurdler, especially the high hurdler, must develop extreme flexibility in both legs. The hurdler's legs must be bent and stretched in a manner that is not "natural" compared to normal unimpeded sprinting. To properly clear the hurdle the lead leg must be lifted quite high (thus extremely stretching the leg's rear muscles and tendons) and the trailing leg must be bent outwards and upwards ( thus stretching that side's groin muscles). The (high) hurdler's crotch must pass as closely as possible to the hurdle cross-bar because this is the way the hurdler minimizes upward vertical motion (which is time wasting motion) while clearing the hurdle. This is why the "hurdler's exercise" is normally performed, especially just prior to the start of a race. 76.112.59.203 (talk) 11:20, 2 January 2015 (UTC)DougH[reply]

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What’s a sprint?[edit]

The article doesn’t specify what a sprint is. It implies that it is up to 200m (inclusive); and that the 300m and 400m are "long" hurdles.

MBG02 (talk) 18:04, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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