Talk:Henderson Hall Historic District

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Review: August 25, 2021. (Reviewed version).

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A fact from Henderson Hall Historic District appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 24 May 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Henderson Hall Historic District (building pictured) contains one of the oldest extant schools in West Virginia?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/May. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Henderson Hall Historic District.

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by MeegsC (talk) 16:15, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Henderson Hall

~~... that a wedding dress from 1802 is preserved at Henderson Hall Historic District (pictured)? [1]~~
- ALT1:... that Henderson Hall Historic District (pictured) contains one of the oldest extant schools in West Virginia? [2] page 5
  - ALT2 ... that a wedding dress from 1802 is preserved at Henderson Hall (pictured)? Same source as ALT0

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Napolioni Bolaca
Comment: Greater than 7x expansion occurred between April 27 and May 1.

5x expanded by Hog Farm (talk). Self-nominated at 17:45, 1 May 2021 (UTC).[reply]

The nominated article was hugely expanded within the week prior to its nomination. It is long enough and sourced well enough for DYK. No copyright violations or other issues bar it from being shown on the Main Page. Both hooks are formatted within the guidelines for DYK and backed up by references, though ALT0 might need some rewording since the wedding dress is in Henderson Hall (the building). Aside from that, the nomination is fine, QPQ has been done, and the image is suitable for the Main Page. Nice work so far, ❯❯❯ Mccunicano ☕️ 02:07, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Mccunicano: - Is the rephrased attempt better? Hog Farm _Talk 02:28, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. With that and my initial remarks, ALT1 and ALT2 are both good to go. ❯❯❯ Mccunicano ☕️ 02:31, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Henderson Hall Historic District/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ganesha811 (talk · contribs) 12:28, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I'm opening a Good Article Nomination review. Hoping to complete the review over the next couple of days. I'll be using the template below. This looks like a big one - sorry you've been waiting a while! Ganesha811 (talk) 12:28, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hog Farm, this passes GA - congrats to you and anyone else who worked on the article. I'll do the needful now. Ganesha811 (talk) 12:32, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	I've gone through and made some prose tweaks, since it's easier than laying them all out as tasks for you. Let me know if there are any you dislike. The only other prose issue is the 21/29 room discrepancy. The sources are definitely in disagreement, and I assume the difference lays in what is counted as part of "Henderson Hall." Can we come up with any reason to pick one number over another? I don't like the idea of leaving it ambiguous, such as it is at present. If the discrepancy can't be resolved, I would recommend we just leave out the number of rooms in the article. I can't really reconcile these two, so I've just removed the room count. Hog Farm _Talk 02:48, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply] Sounds good - pass on prose.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Pass, no issues here.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	No uncited passages or information that I can find. Given the importance of the Collins source to the article, let's archive it (archive.org) and add the link to the citation under 'Sources.' Otherwise I fear linkrot will eat this one up within a few years. Would be good to do the same for the Kenny, Oxford Pres, and White sources too, but less important as those are to more stable links. I've archived Collins. I don't think we usually archive Google books or Hathitrust links
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Pass - sources appear sufficiently reliable.
	2c. it contains no original research.	Appears free of OR.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	Some of the phrasing, especially in "History", comes uncomfortably close to the Collins source. "consolidated land claims", etc. Take another read through and see if you can adjust the text so it paraphrases the Collins source, not just rewriting sentences in a different way. It would also help if information from other sources was integrated throughout the section (Pohick), breaking up the Collins-sourced material. I've gone through and done some rephrasing. I've also moved the Pohick material into the main history section "Got the site listed" seems too close to "Got the plantation listed" - rephrase. Would also be good to give some context for what it takes to list a site, since the current phrasing almost implies you can do it on your own without input from the NPS. Rephrased Issues addressed - pass.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	Based on sources and a quick search on Google and JSTOR, appears comprehensive.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Pass, no issues here.
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	Pass, no neutrality issues found.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	Pass, no issues here.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Pass, all look good.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	The two images we have are fine - do we have any others of any other buildings in the District? Unfortunately, I haven't come across any free-use images other than what is in the article Fair enough, pass on images.
	7. Overall assessment.