Talk:Helen Oxenbury

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Not a copywrite violation. Some of the sites content was quoted in the article and has since been removed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesmchallem (talk • contribs) 13:19, 19 June 2008‎ (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

{{Authority control}} in the article footer links LC and other catalog data.

1969a,1969b, and 1999 winners at Greenaway Medal Living Archive (2007?)

The article now gives these three references for the facts that HO won the two Greenaway Medals for the three books. --and only the latter for substantial citation of the award-winning work (Alice in Wonderland, 1999) --P64 (talk) 17:08, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

--P64 (talk) 22:21, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See also Talk: John Burningham#Sources. --P64 (talk) 15:32, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Greenaway Medal details[edit]

The Kate Greenaway Medal (quote) "recognised the year's best children's book illustration by a British subject; two books were occasionally cited; there was no cash prize." --that is my today rewording of my recent explanation in this biography.

My old Note in progress clutters more than it is worth. The current version is restricted to explanation of the former "Commended" and "Highly Commended" runners up. --as I cut these notes on the other three points:

• Since about 2000 all illustrators are eligible for any one children's books published or co-published in the U.K.[citation needed]
• From 2000 there is a cash prize of £5000 from a bequest by Colin Mears (CILIP).
• Only single works are considered for the Medal; both the 2008 and 2000 winning illustrators were recognised for one of their two books on the shortlist. In contrast, one illustrator was recognised for two books four times from 1959 to 1982. Two illustrators were commended, but did not win the Medal, for 1964 work in general (CCSU listings).

Perhaps these points may permanently be handled only at Kate Greenaway Medal. --P64 (talk) 17:08, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We're Going on a Lion Hunt[edit]

Anyone know the connection between 'We're Going on a Bear Hunt' book and 'We're Going on a Lion Hunt' (David Axtell)? Presumably one is derivative of the other or else both are drawn from a common source. They both follow the same format (with nearly the same words). The Axtell book suggests that this is an old story.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Were-Going-Lion-David-Axtell/dp/0333741498/ref=pd_sim_b_3#reader_0333741498 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.155.122.219 (talk) 20:49, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Library of Congress catalog records for four first editions:
  1. Sivulich/Rounds bear hunt (New York, Dutton [1973]) [1]
  2. Rosen/Oxenbury bear hunt (New York : Margaret K. McElderry Books[Macmillan], c1989) [2] --namely the first U.S. edition [3]; originally London: Walker Books, 1989)
  3. Axtell lion hunt (London : Macmillan Children's Books, 1999) [4]
  4. Cuyler/Mathieu lion hunt (Tarrytown, New York : Marshall Cavendish Children, c2008) [5]
More about the Rosen/Oxenbury bear hunt (Walker 1989; U.S., Macmillan 1989)
  1. One WorldCat library record provides an extraordinary summary, which says it's "based on the old camp chant." [6]
  2. Squidoo provides a Teacher's Guide to "Going on a Bear Hunt" which it calls "a classic camp and circle-time song". It calls Rosen/Oxenbury the "best of several based on the Bear Hunt chant." (squidoo.com is blocked here)
  3. Scholastic Books provides a lesson plan for the Rosen/Oxenbury bear hunt [7]
Rosen/Oxenbury features four children and their father; Axtell's lion hunt features "two loving sisters"; Cuyler & Mathieu's lion hunt features a school class
Someone calls Lion Hunt (Axtell) "a hilarious twist on the classic" Bear Hunt [8]
Cuyler [9] and some others refer the story to a children's *game*.
--P64 (talk) 23:18, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Scout Song No. 419 of 778 [10]
"when I was in camp as a child ..." [11] "I was born in the 70s. The songs that I remember were learned from my mother or kids at school – on the playground – or at Girl Scouts or Girl Scout camp. Please note that I did not write the lyrics or music to any of these songs." [12]
That goes back only to the 1980s, subsequent than the Suvilich/Rounds book.
--P64 (talk) 23:29, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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