Talk:Heinrich von Treitschke

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Antisemitism[edit]

Above title supplied by me today. --Ludvikus (talk) 01:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-semitism: this is actually supported in the 1911 EB text on which the article is based, so there is really no basis for cutting it out. Charles Matthews 12:26, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As brillian a historian as he was, he his widely regarded by his peers to have been a rabid anti-Semite. --Ludvikus (talk) 01:50, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article completely understates the vehemence of Treitschke's antisemitism (and how widespread similar, if more tame, views were in German academia and civil society in general). One need only think of the Antisemitic Petition of 1881 or the lasting impression his hypernationalism and Jew-hatred made on his students. As a result, the entry manages to make him appear to be an outlier in Wilhelmine society and less influential than he in fact was. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.208.71 (talk) 11:46, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Founder of a political party?[edit]

An unpublished text I'm editing refers to Heinrich von Treitschke as "the [sic; perhaps a?] founder of the [sic; perhaps an?] antisemitic German political party." I don't find this clearly stated on the page here. Given that he died in 1896, might this refer to the Christian Social Party (on which page he isn't mentioned), or another? -- Deborahjay (talk) 10:18, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Further: from the de:Antisemitenliga page:

Ein Grund dafür war auch der Berliner Antisemitismusstreit, den der anerkannte Historiker Heinrich von Treitschke fast zeitgleich im Oktober 1879 auslöste. Treitschke, der hohes Ansehen im konservativen Bürgertum genoss, grenzte sich gegen Marrs „Radauantisemitismus“ ab, bestätigte aber zugleich Stöckers Forderung nach Ausschluss von Juden aus allen Staatsämtern. Dieser nutzte seine Popularität, um 1880 die Berliner Bewegung als Sammlungsbecken aller Antisemiten ins Leben zu rufen. Er initiierte zusammen mit Bernhard Förster, Max Liebermann von Sonnenberg und Ernst Henrici eine Antisemitenpetition, die auch Marrs Liga unterstützte. Obwohl Stöcker dieses Bündnis billigte und aktiv dafür warb, verlagerte sich das Hauptfeld der Agitation gegen angeblich übermäßigen jüdischen Einfluss auf die Gesellschaft nun an die Universitäten. Dort hatte Marrs Liga kaum Rückhalt, weil sie im Ruf stand, vom „Pöbel“ getragen zu sein. Damit war sein Experiment, Antisemitismus abseits von bestehenden Parteien zu einem eigenen politischen Programm und seine Liga zur Dachorganisation für alle Antisemiten zu machen, zunächst gescheitert. Durch den weitaus stärker in den Medien beachteten Antisemitismusstreit erreichte Treitschke, was Marr nicht erreichte: die Akzeptanz eines scheinwissenschaftlichen Rassismus als Ablösung oder Ergänzung der konfessionellen Judenfeindschaft, auch jenseits von parteipolitischen Erfolgen

Deafness[edit]

The German article says Treitschke was quite deaf, at least in his later years (as early as 1880). If this is true it should be added to this article as well - it is striking that such a prominent and aggressive public figure would have been stone deaf. 195.67.149.165 (talk) 07:43, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Source?[edit]

I find this passage a bit confusing:

"His violent article, in which he demanded the annexation of the Kingdoms of Hanover and Saxony, and attacked with great bitterness the Saxon royal house, led to an estrangement from his father, a personal friend of the king."

To which violent article does this refer? Does it have a title? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dralseebiades (talk • contribs) 05:20, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]