Talk:Hans Maeder

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If anybody can expand this page, improve it or correct it, please fire away. Calamitybrook (talk) 18:58, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

{{ Samuel Sass, 1976: (Buchanan familiar with Berkshires) "A Berkshire St. John's: The college we lost." The Berkshire Eagle, October 12, 1976.

Stockpiling note hereCalamitybrook (talk) 03:06, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Communist Sympathizer? Nazi Fighter?[edit]

Any information on Maeder being a communist in Germany or a communist sympathizer in the U.S.A. .? The trail is pretty stale. But there is this: http://keywiki.org/index.php/Hans_Maeder Wlmg (talk) 19:31, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't go there. Considering his politics and the times, I assume that he was accused by somebody of being a Communist or a sympathizer (particularly during the 1950s). Accusations aren't reality, though.

And the fact that the conspiracy theorists at keywiki claim that the organization now called National Committee Against Repressive Legislation was or is a communist front does not come close to making it true. Finally, the fact that a person's name appeared on a long list of sponsors of an organization does not make that person responsible for all of the organization's actions and policies. --Orlady (talk) 22:41, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The answer of what particular flavor of socialist Maeder was in Germany is likely unanswerable. His bio as a member of the anti-Nazi underground are likely embellishments of his biographers. The only underground ref I found was he was a writer for the underground while in exile. As for the gestapo chasing him around the globe that's preposterous. It's 1933 The Enabling Act is put into effect, and the sh*t starts to fly for real. Maeder has done something to piss off the Nazis (not a hard thing to do). Maeder packs up and moves to Denmark. Maeder was in Denmark teaching for four years, and what does he do? He goes on vacations (his word) to England, Scandanavia, and Switzerland. He'd have to be a blind fool to hazard the recipients of his letters of a seditious nature, maybe he wrote in secret code or used mail drops in any case I'm dubious. His gestapo classification was probably Enemies:Reactionaries and Liberals (A3) these people were of low interest many like Maeder simply left the country of their own accord. So it's 1937 and the Rhineland has been remilitarized and the Anschluss is nearing. Germany pushes on all its neighbors. Denmark tells Maeder to go home or go away, he chooses the latter. Through all this he still had his German passport so he goes to Kenya to grow coffee and play with children shooting marbles. Sensing war is imminent he exits British Empire colonies and removes to American- controlled Philippines and then Hawaii. It is entirely possible he could have maintained correspondence until his internment after Pearl Harbor. Their content is a mystery.

Wlmg (talk) 23:46, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All interesting theories -- which perhaps might be carefully & reasonably sourced with more work. We look forward to results of your labor.

Also of interest: You propose deleting the article. Am neutral.

Calamitybrook (talk) 02:36, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Calamity, with all due respect it is not my responsibility to police your activities but your edit: "Maeder eventually joined the anti-Nazi underground, and fled Germany in 1933 to avoid arrest. He went to Denmark, where he continued his studies and remained active in the underground. But in 1937, Maeder was forced to leave Denmark and was subsequently pursued by the Gestapo and other Nazi sympathizers in Kenya, Singapore and the Philippines. Maeder arrived in Hawaii in 1941, where he was arrested on suspicion of being a German spy on December 8, the day following the bombing of Pearl Harbor." is a fish story. You kept on piling on more and more uncited info to your previous edits to arrive at that. What there is in the article on the Nazi underground etc.. is now cited, and your own musings have been removed.

Wlmg (talk) 17:02, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you're right.

Calamitybrook (talk) 15:07, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In Germany nobody would understand this discussian because Maeder was a man from the left wing of the Social Democratic Party and never a communist. But in the times of McCarthy most of the socialist german emigrants had been denounced as communists. He was an opponent of the Nazi-regime but not a fighter with a gun in his arms. But all these men writing and distributing flyers against the Nazis were part of the political underground at this time.Der wilde bernd (talk) 15:49, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]