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Merger proposal[edit]

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The result of this discussion was no consensus TheUSConservative (talk) 16:21, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the merge.[edit]

hi i agree with merging hp and hp inc to one article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.213.44.206 (talk) 06:44, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The contents of the Hewlett-Packard article should be moved here, and that page should be changed to a redirect page to this one. The Hewlett-Packard corporation is not defunct, it simply changed its name to HP, Inc. This is made unambiguously clear in their Form 10-K submitted to the United States Securities and Exchange Commission. Form 10-K is a legal document with heavy penalties for incorrect factual statements. The submitted form says, "HP was incorporated in 1947 under the laws of the state of California as the successor to a partnership founded in 1939 by William R. Hewlett and David Packard. Effective in May 1998, we changed our state of incorporation from California to Delaware." (Part 1, page 4). Corporations change their names all the time and I assume there is a standard Wikipedia method for handling such name changes. Nick Beeson (talk) 11:07, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The original Hewlett-Packard is defunct. It split into two completely separate companies, each taking over part of the original HP's business units. The old company's HPQ stock ticker was only transferred to the new HP Inc. to avoid it from becoming unassigned. But considering there is so much support yet so much opposition to this proposal, I suggest that a full discussion take place here and have an admin judge the result later on. <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 23:14, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Gadget Geek - perhaps from a financial point of view, the printer-and-PC company is what the old HP turned into, but, from a technology and products point of view, there's nothing about the printer-and-PC company that makes it more the successor to the old HP than the server company, so it's best to say that the old HP split into two companies (after spinning off Agilent, which was the company that got the type of equipment that HP originally made). Guy Harris (talk) 08:39, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This is a (relatively) new company and by merging it with the older company it replaced we're essentially not giving the article a chance to slowly expand with time, for a comparable situation see Motorola Vs. Motorola Mobility Vs. Motorola Solutions, companies sometimes split and HP Inc. is simply not the same as Hewlett-Packard.
Sincerely, --86.81.201.94 (talk) 20:53, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That is only the opinion of a single editor. As is stated, legal documents dictate that HPE is a spin-out, and HP Inc. is simply a renaming of the remainder of what was formerly named "Hewlett-Packard Company". ViperSnake151  Talk  21:31, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merge![edit]

As stated above, "HP Inc." is a very short article and all contents from Hewlett-Packard must be transferred here, accompanied with the "Formerly called" text, and the same information regardless with the info about the split. DelightWell (talk) 02:59, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Excessive linking[edit]

As per WP:SEEALSO Hewlett Packard Enterprise can't be in the "See also" while also being in the body of the text. Sincerely, --86.81.201.94 (talk) 20:56, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See also[edit]

As per WP:SEEALSO links should be revised. --86.81.201.94 (talk) 21:34, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Links to this page[edit]

Editors should please note that this page refers to the company created by the split of the original Hewlett-Packard on Nov 1, 2015, and should ONLY be linked to from other articles if the context refers to events AFTER the split. Any references to HP prior to the split should be linked directly to Hewlett-Packard. I would appreciate if editors could go through all the pages that link to here and HP Enterprise and correct those that reference events before Nov 1, 2015: see here for an example of what I would like to be done. Thanks for your help, <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 22:48, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note that a lot of the links may come from templates such as {{Major information technology companies}} that may legitimately link to HP Inc., so filtering those out will be a bit of a pain. Guy Harris (talk) 23:59, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So what are the current HP Inc.'s "predecessors"?[edit]

The infobox currently lists Hewlett-Packard, Compaq, Tandem Computers, Digital Equipment Corporation, and 3Com as "predecessors".

The old HP acquired Compaq, Tandem, and 3Com; however, those parts of HP went into HPE, not HP. (HP didn't acquire DEC, they acquired Compaq who acquired DEC.)

As such, I'm not sure it's appropriate to list those companies as predecessors to HP Inc., given that, when HP split into HP Inc. and HPE, the parts of the company that's responsible for the products that came from those acquisitions went into HPE, not HP Inc..

(I'm also not sure they should be considered "predecessors" of HPE or Hewlett-Packard, given that they were purchased by Hewlett-Packard - that was more like "eaten by HP" rather than "was one of the organizations from which HP grew", but that's not as strong an objection. Guy Harris (talk) 04:14, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have a slight objection, yes HPE has products resultant from Tandem, 3PAR, and 3Com's acquisitions, but Compaq's remnants didn't go into HPE. I'm of a mixed opinion about DEC, about the only thing that Digital made which still has some representation at HPE is OpenVMS, they still sell servers made for OpenVMS but even then they're not developing it anymore. There's nothing from DEC represented at HP Inc really. The Compaq name has been retired but HP Inc makes the successors to a lot of Compaq's products, like the Elite line which HP Inc uses for the high end of their business notebook and desktop models (I work in Elite hardware support). Some Compaq products aren't End of Life just yet either. HP Inc also operates out of the old Compaq facility in Houston, its the largest in the company as a matter of fact. Internally we refer to it as CCA (Compaq Campus Americas). Disclosure: I'm an HP employee. The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of HP Inc, its shareholders, vendors, contractors, or suppliers. 192.56.11.5 (talk) 04:05, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The remnants of the original Compaq went to HP, Inc., but Compaq had also bought Tandem and DEC before HP bought Compaq, and Tandem and the non-PC parts of DEC went to HPE.
HPE licensed VMS to VMS Software Inc., who are currently developing and maintaining it - they're working on an x86 (probably just x86-64) port.
I don't know how much, if anything, of DEC's PC line remains in HP, Inc.. Hewlett-Packard had their own PC business prior to the Compaq acquisition.
So "Hewlett-Packard" arguably had no predecessors, they just had successors (Agilent, Hewlett-Packard Enterprises, and HP, Inc.) and acquisitions (Apollo, Compaq, 3Com, EDS, Palm, 3PAR, Autonomy, etc.). Agilent and HPE have Hewlett-Packard as predecessors; if one considers HP, Inc. as not being "Hewlett-Packard", it also has Hewlett-Packard as its predecessor. Guy Harris (talk) 06:47, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge with Hewlett-Packard[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was to merge per WP:SILENCE (and guide at WP:MERGECLOSE) – BrandonXLF (t@lk) 06:50, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hewlett-Packard was renamed to Hp Inc. and Hewlett Packard Enterprise was just spun off, just because HPE was spun off doesn't mean the company was split. The company was technically just renamed to HP Inc. This page also lacks a history section and the Hewlett-Packard page is mostly history with other sections that would fit into the scope of this page as they are the same company. Having the pages separate to make it seems like HP has no history and isn't as important of a brand as it is (which is covered in Hewlett-Packard). Also, this article is rather short for such a big tech company and a lot potential content that could be on this article is at Hewlett-Packard. – BrandonXLF (t@lk) 04:26, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@BrandonXLF: This situation looks a little complex, a great discussion is needed. To me, it looks like Hewlett-Packard was split into two companies in 2015. If that's the case, Hewlett-Packard should've moved to HP Inc (obviously after an RM discussion) and not text-merged especially without proper attribution and with just one user claiming there is consensus in silence/the lack of opposition. Hewlett-Packard, created in 2001 with over 5,000 revisions, should be the primary page and the 2015-created page with about 500 revisions should be merged into the former if there is consensus but there doesn't appear to be. I hereby oppose merging and would recommend starting an RM discussion. Flooded with them hundreds 07:30, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Flooded with them hundreds: Hewlett-Packard receives way to many pages views for a defunct company. Legally, Hewlett-Packard was renamed to HP Inc and Hewlett-Packard was not split into two companies. Currently this page is way to small FOR an American tech giant, but the Hewlett-Packard page has all the content that needs to be moved here to make it a proper page. I guess because of the revision count we could do a RM. Just so I can know, how did I not provide proper proper attribution? If I'm doing a RM can I also make a draft with what the article would look like after the RM as I've done some work on HP Inc. already? – BrandonXLF (t@lk) 16:44, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress[edit]

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Subsidiaries[edit]

I was wondering if I should include HP's subsidiaries in the infobox. My main concern is that there's a lot of them. The example to the right has all of them. Any suggestions on what to do or if I shouldn't include them? We could also make a page called List of HP subsidiaries with a list of the subsidiaries (see below). – BrandonXLF (t@lk) 21:50, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Subsidiaries
List of Subsidiaries
  • Untied States
    • Compaq Information Technologies, LLC
    • Computer Insurance Company
    • Hewlett‑Packard Company Archives LLC
    • Hewlett‑Packard Development Company, L.P.
    • Hewlett‑Packard Enterprises, LLC
    • Hewlett‑Packard Products CV 1, LLC
    • Hewlett‑Packard Products CV 2, LLC
    • Hewlett‑Packard World Trade, LLC
    • HP Hewlett Packard Group LLC
    • HPI Bermuda Holdings LLC
    • HPI Brazil Holdings LLC
    • HPI CCHGPII Sub LLC
    • HPI CCHGPII LLC
    • HPI Federal LLC
    • HPI J1 Holdings LLC
    • HPI J2 Holdings LLC
    • HPI Luxembourg LLC
    • HPQ Holdings, LLC
    • Indigo America, Inc.
    • Palm Latin America, Inc.
    • Palm Trademark Holding Company, LLC
    • Palm, Inc.
    • Shoreline Investment Management Company
    • Tall Tree Insurance Company
    Netherlands
    • Alpha Holding One B.V.
    • Alpha Holding Two B.V.
    • Anatolus Holding B.V.
    • Antila Holding B.V.
    • Caleum Holding B.V.
    • Callisto Holding B.V.
    • Columba Holding B.V.
    • Crater Holding B.V.
    • Dorado Holding B.V.
    • Elara Holding B.V.
    • Eunomia Holding B.V.
    • Flame Holding B.V.
    • Hadar Holding B.V.
    • Hewlett‑Packard (Japan NK) Holdings C.V.
    • Hewlett‑Packard Cambridge B.V.
    • Hewlett‑Packard Copenhagen B.V.
    • Hewlett‑Packard Danube B.V.
    • Hewlett‑Packard Global Holdings B.V.
    • Hewlett‑Packard Global Investments B.V.
    • Hewlett-Packard Japan Holding B.V..
    • Hewlett‑Packard Lisbon B.V.
    • Hewlett‑Packard Mercator B.V.
    • Hewlett‑Packard Munich B.V.
    • Hewlett‑Packard Sunnyvale B.V.
    • HP China Holding B.V.
    • HP Europe B.V.
    • HP Global Trading B.V.
    • HP Indigo B.V
    • HP International Trading B.V.
    • HP Nederland B.V.
    • HP Print Technology B.V.
    • HP Products C.V.
    • HP Technology Nederland B.V.
    • Kale Holding B.V.
    • Lyra Holding B.V.
    • Mensa Holding B.V.
    • Pearl Holding Coöperatief U.A.
    • Perseus Holding B.V.
    • Propus Holding B.V.
    • Regor Holding B.V.
    • Scorpius Holding B.V.
    • Tourmaline Holding B.V.
    • Vesta Holding B.V.
    International
    • Hewlett‑Packard Angola, Ltda.
    • HP Inc Argentina S.R.L.
    • HP PPS Australia Pty Ltd
    • Tower Software Engineering Pty Ltd
    • HP Austria GmbH
    • Aptitude Management Consulting W.L.L.
    • HP France SAS, Bahrain Branch
    • Hewlett‑Packard Industrial Printing Solutions Europe BVBA
    • HP Belgium BVBA
    • HP Bermuda Holding One L.P.
    • Phoenix Holding L.P.
    • Polaris Holding One L.P.
    • Polaris Holding Two L.P.
    • Turquoise Holding L.P.
    • HP Brasil Indústria e Comércio de Equipamentos Eletrônicos Ltda
    • HP Brasil Indústria e Comércio de Equipamentos Eletrônicos Ltda.-Branch 01 (Tamboré)
    • HP Brasil Indústria e Comércio de Equipamentos Eletrônicos Ltda.-Branch 2 (Sorocaba)
    • HP Brasil Indústria e Comércio de Equipamentos Eletrônicos Ltda.-Branch 3 (Porto Alegre)
    • Nur do Brasil Ltda
    • Palm Comércio de Aparelhos Eletrônicos Ltda.
    • AOME Holdings Ltd.
    • HP Inc Bulgaria EOOD
    • HP Canada Co. HP Canada Cie
    • Compaq Cayman Holdings Company
    • Compaq Cayman Holdings General Partnership II
    • Compaq Cayman Islands Vision Company
    • Hewlett‑Packard West Indies Limited
    • HP Holdgate Co.
    • Quartz Holding Co
    • HP Inc Chile Comercial Limitada
    • China HP Co., Ltd.
    • China HP Co., Ltd., Jiangan Branch
    • China HP Co., Ltd. Nanjing Branch
    • HP (Chongqing) Manufacturing, Export, Procurement and Settlement Co., Ltd.
    • HP (Chongqing) Co., Ltd
    • HP Information Technology R & D (Shanghai) Co. Ltd.
    • HP Technology (Beijing) Co., Ltd. Chengdu Branch
    • HP Technology (Beijing) Co., Ltd. Guangzhou Branch
    • HP Technology (Beijing) Co., Ltd. Shanghai Branch
    • HP Technology (Shanghai) Co. Ltd.
    • HP Trading (Shanghai) Co. Ltd.
    • HP Trading (Shanghai) Co., Ltd. Dalian Branch
    • HP Trading (Shanghai) Co., Ltd. Zhangjiang Branch
    • Palm Advantage Mobile Computing Technology (Shanghai) Co. Ltd.
    • HP Colombia SAS
    • HP Inc Costa Rica Limitada
    • HP PPS Costa Rica Limitada
    • HP Computing and Printing d.o.o. (Zagreb)
    • HP Inc Czech Republic s.r.o.
    • HP Inc Danmark ApS
    • HP Finland Oy
    • HP France Holding SAS
    • HP France SAS
    • HP Deutschland GmbH
    • HP Deutschland Holding GmbH
    • HP Printing and Personal Systems Hellas EPE
    • HP Inc AP Hong Kong Limited
    • HP Inc Hong Kong Limited
    • Palm Asia Pacific Limited
    • HP Inc Magyarország Kft.
    • HP India Sales Private Limited
    • HP Computing and Printing Systems India Private Limited
    • HP PPS India Operations Private Limited
    • HP PPS Services India Private Limited
    • PT Hewlett‑Packard Indonesia
    • Gram Global Operations Limited
    • Hewlett‑Packard Ireland (Holdings) Ltd.
    • Hewlett‑Packard Ireland 1, Limited
    • HP Production Company Limited
    • HP Technology Ireland Limited
    • Palm Global Operations Limited
    • Palm Ireland Investment Unlimited Company
    • HP Indigo Ltd.
    • HP Scitex Ltd
    • HP Technology Israel Ltd.
    • HP Israel Ltd
    • PFE Investments Ltd.
    • HP Italy S.r.l.
    • Hewlett‑Packard G.K.
    • HP Japan Inc.
    • SYC Corporation, Ltd.
    • HP Global Trading B.V., Kazakhstan Branch
    • HP Kenya Limited
    • Hewlett‑Packard MENA FZ‑LLC Libya Branch
    • Aquarius Holding S.C.A.
    • HP Luxembourg S.C.A.
    • Nihon HP Nin‑I Kumiai
    • HP Malaysia Manufacturing Sdn. Bhd.
    • HP PPS Malaysia Sdn. Bhd.
    • HP PPS Multimedia Sdn. Bhd.
    • HP PPS Sales Sdn. Bhd.
    • Computing and Printing Global Services Mexico, S. de R.L. de C.V.
    • Computing and Printing Mexico, S. de R.L. de C.V.
    • Computing and Printing Professional Services Mexico, S. de R.L. de C.V.
    • HP PPS Maroc
    • HP New Zealand
    • HP Computing and Printing Nigeria Ltd
    • HP Norge AS
    • Hewlett‑Packard Arabia LLC
    • HP Pakistan (Private) Limited
    • Hewlett Packard Distribution Center Panama S. de R.L
    • HP Panama S. de R.L.
    • HP Inc. Perú S.R.L.
    • HP PPS Philippines Inc.
    • HP Inc Polska sp. z o.o.
    • HPCP ‑ Computing and Printing Portugal, Unipessoal, Lda.
    • HP International Sàrl (Puerto Rico Branch) LLC
    • HP International Trading B.V. (Puerto Rico Branch) LLC
    • HP Puerto Rico LLC
    • Kale Holding B.V. (Puerto Rico Branch) LLC
    • Hewlett‑Packard KSA Ltd., Qatar Branch
    • HP Inc Romania SRL
    • Limited Liability Company HP Inc
    • OOO “Hewlett‑Packard RUS”
    • ZAO Hewlett‑Packard A.O.
    • Hewlett‑Packard KSA Ltd
    • Hewlett‑Packard Services Saudi Arabia Company
    • HP Computing and Printing d.o.o. (Beograd)
    • HP International Pte. Ltd.
    • HP PPS Asia Pacific Pte. Ltd.
    • HP PPS Singapore (Sales) Pte. Ltd.
    • HP Singapore (Private) Limited
    • HP Inc Slovakia, s.r.o.
    • HP South Africa Proprietary Limited
    • HP South Africa Trust
    • HP Korea Inc.
    • HP Printing and Computing Solutions, S.L.U.
    • HP Solutions Creation and Development Services S.L.U.
    • HP PPS Sverige AB
    • HP Europe BV, Amsterdam, Meyrin Branch
    • HP International Sàrl
    • HP Schweiz GmbH
    • HP International Pte. Ltd., Taiwan Branch
    • HP Taiwan Information Technology Ltd.
    • HP Inc (Thailand) Ltd.
    • HP Inc Tunisie SARL
    • HP Bilgisayar ve Baský Teknolojileri Limited Þirketi
    • HP Bilgisayar ve Baský Teknolojileri Limited Þirketi Ankara Þubesi
    • Hewlett‑Packard MENA FZ‑LLC
    • HP Computing and Printing Middle East FZ‑LLC
    • HP Europe B.V., Abu Dhabi Branch
    • HP Europe B.V., Regional Dubai Branch
    • HP Inc Gulf
    • Aurasma Limited
    • HP Inc UK Holding Limited
    • HP Inc UK Limited
    • Palm Europe Limited
    • HP Technology Vietnam Company Ltd
[1]
List of HP subsidiaries

[2]

Angola

  • Hewlett‑Packard Angola, Ltda.

Argentina

  • HP Inc Argentina S.R.L.

Australia

  • HP PPS Australia Pty Ltd
  • Tower Software Engineering Pty Ltd

Austria

  • HP Austria GmbH

Bahrain

  • Aptitude Management Consulting W.L.L.
  • HP France SAS, Bahrain Branch

Belgium

  • Hewlett‑Packard Industrial Printing Solutions Europe BVBA
  • HP Belgium BVBA

Bermuda

  • HP Bermuda Holding One L.P.
  • Phoenix Holding L.P.
  • Polaris Holding One L.P.
  • Polaris Holding Two L.P.
  • Turquoise Holding L.P.

Brazil

  • HP Brasil Indústria e Comércio de Equipamentos Eletrônicos Ltda
  • HP Brasil Indústria e Comércio de Equipamentos Eletrônicos Ltda.-Branch 01 (Tamboré)
  • HP Brasil Indústria e Comércio de Equipamentos Eletrônicos Ltda.-Branch 2 (Sorocaba)
  • HP Brasil Indústria e Comércio de Equipamentos Eletrônicos Ltda.-Branch 3 (Porto Alegre)
  • Nur do Brasil Ltda
  • Palm Comércio de Aparelhos Eletrônicos Ltda.

British Virgin Islands

  • AOME Holdings Ltd.

Bulgaria

  • HP Inc Bulgaria EOOD

Canada

  • HP Canada Co. HP Canada Cie

Cayman Islands

  • Compaq Cayman Holdings Company
  • Compaq Cayman Holdings General Partnership II
  • Compaq Cayman Islands Vision Company
  • Hewlett‑Packard West Indies Limited
  • HP Holdgate Co.
  • Quartz Holding Co

Chile

  • HP Inc Chile Comercial Limitada

China

  • China HP Co., Ltd.
  • China HP Co., Ltd., Jiangan Branch
  • China HP Co., Ltd. Nanjing Branch
  • HP (Chongqing) Manufacturing, Export, Procurement and Settlement Co., Ltd.
  • HP (Chongqing) Co., Ltd
  • HP Information Technology R & D (Shanghai) Co. Ltd.
  • HP Technology (Beijing) Co., Ltd. Chengdu Branch
  • HP Technology (Beijing) Co., Ltd. Guangzhou Branch
  • HP Technology (Beijing) Co., Ltd. Shanghai Branch
  • HP Technology (Shanghai) Co. Ltd.
  • HP Trading (Shanghai) Co. Ltd.
  • HP Trading (Shanghai) Co., Ltd. Dalian Branch
  • HP Trading (Shanghai) Co., Ltd. Zhangjiang Branch
  • Palm Advantage Mobile Computing Technology (Shanghai) Co. Ltd.

Colombia

  • HP Colombia SAS

Costa Rica

  • HP Inc Costa Rica Limitada
  • HP PPS Costa Rica Limitada

Croatia

  • HP Computing and Printing d.o.o. (Zagreb)

CZECH REPUBLIC

  • HP Inc Czech Republic s.r.o.

Denmark

  • HP Inc Danmark ApS

Finland

  • HP Finland Oy

France

  • HP France Holding SAS
  • HP France SAS

Germany

  • HP Deutschland GmbH
  • HP Deutschland Holding GmbH

Greece

  • HP Printing and Personal Systems Hellas EPE

Hong Kong

  • HP Inc AP Hong Kong Limited
  • HP Inc Hong Kong Limited
  • Palm Asia Pacific Limited

Hungary

  • HP Inc Magyarország Kft.

India

  • HP India Sales Private Limited
  • HP Computing and Printing Systems India Private Limited
  • HP PPS India Operations Private Limited
  • HP PPS Services India Private Limited

Indonesia

  • PT Hewlett‑Packard Indonesia

Ireland

  • Gram Global Operations Limited
  • Hewlett‑Packard Ireland (Holdings) Ltd.
  • Hewlett‑Packard Ireland 1, Limited
  • HP Production Company Limited
  • HP Technology Ireland Limited
  • Palm Global Operations Limited
  • Palm Ireland Investment Unlimited Company

Israel

  • HP Indigo Ltd.
  • HP Scitex Ltd
  • HP Technology Israel Ltd.
  • HP Israel Ltd
  • PFE Investments Ltd.

Italy

  • HP Italy S.r.l.

Japan

  • Hewlett‑Packard G.K.
  • HP Japan Inc.
  • SYC Corporation, Ltd.

Kazakhstan

  • HP Global Trading B.V., Kazakhstan Branch

Kenya

  • HP Kenya Limited

Libya

  • Hewlett‑Packard MENA FZ‑LLC Libya Branch

Luxembourg

  • Aquarius Holding S.C.A.
  • HP Luxembourg S.C.A.
  • Nihon HP Nin‑I Kumiai

Malaysia

  • HP Malaysia Manufacturing Sdn. Bhd.
  • HP PPS Malaysia Sdn. Bhd.
  • HP PPS Multimedia Sdn. Bhd.
  • HP PPS Sales Sdn. Bhd.

Mexico

  • Computing and Printing Global Services Mexico, S. de R.L. de C.V.
  • Computing and Printing Mexico, S. de R.L. de C.V.
  • Computing and Printing Professional Services Mexico, S. de R.L. de C.V.

Morocco

  • HP PPS Maroc

Netherlands

  • Alpha Holding One B.V.
  • Alpha Holding Two B.V.
  • Anatolus Holding B.V.
  • Antila Holding B.V.
  • Caleum Holding B.V.
  • Callisto Holding B.V.
  • Columba Holding B.V.
  • Crater Holding B.V.
  • Dorado Holding B.V.
  • Elara Holding B.V.
  • Eunomia Holding B.V.
  • Flame Holding B.V.
  • Hadar Holding B.V.
  • Hewlett‑Packard (Japan NK) Holdings C.V.
  • Hewlett‑Packard Cambridge B.V.
  • Hewlett‑Packard Copenhagen B.V.
  • Hewlett‑Packard Danube B.V.
  • Hewlett‑Packard Global Holdings B.V.
  • Hewlett‑Packard Global Investments B.V.
  • Hewlett-Packard Japan Holding B.V..
  • Hewlett‑Packard Lisbon B.V.
  • Hewlett‑Packard Mercator B.V.
  • Hewlett‑Packard Munich B.V.
  • Hewlett‑Packard Sunnyvale B.V.
  • HP China Holding B.V.
  • HP Europe B.V.
  • HP Global Trading B.V.
  • HP Indigo B.V
  • HP International Trading B.V.
  • HP Nederland B.V.
  • HP Print Technology B.V.
  • HP Products C.V.
  • HP Technology Nederland B.V.
  • Kale Holding B.V.
  • Lyra Holding B.V.
  • Mensa Holding B.V.
  • Pearl Holding Coöperatief U.A.
  • Perseus Holding B.V.
  • Propus Holding B.V.
  • Regor Holding B.V.
  • Scorpius Holding B.V.
  • Tourmaline Holding B.V.
  • Vesta Holding B.V.

New Zealand

  • HP New Zealand

Nigeria

  • HP Computing and Printing Nigeria Ltd

Norway

  • HP Norge AS

Oman

  • Hewlett‑Packard Arabia LLC

Pakistan

  • HP Pakistan (Private) Limited

Panama

  • Hewlett Packard Distribution Center Panama S. de R.L
  • HP Panama S. de R.L.

Peru

  • HP Inc. Perú S.R.L.

Philippines

  • HP PPS Philippines Inc.

POLAND

  • HP Inc Polska sp. z o.o.

Portugal

  • HPCP ‑ Computing and Printing Portugal, Unipessoal, Lda.

Puerto Rico

  • HP International Sàrl (Puerto Rico Branch) LLC
  • HP International Trading B.V. (Puerto Rico Branch) LLC
  • HP Puerto Rico LLC
  • Kale Holding B.V. (Puerto Rico Branch) LLC

Qatar

  • Hewlett‑Packard KSA Ltd., Qatar Branch

Romania

  • HP Inc Romania SRL

Russia

  • Limited Liability Company HP Inc
  • OOO “Hewlett‑Packard RUS”
  • ZAO Hewlett‑Packard A.O.

Saudi Arabia

  • Hewlett‑Packard KSA Ltd
  • Hewlett‑Packard Services Saudi Arabia Company

Serbia

  • HP Computing and Printing d.o.o. (Beograd)

Singapore

  • HP International Pte. Ltd.
  • HP PPS Asia Pacific Pte. Ltd.
  • HP PPS Singapore (Sales) Pte. Ltd.
  • HP Singapore (Private) Limited

Slovakia

  • HP Inc Slovakia, s.r.o.

South Africa

  • HP South Africa Proprietary Limited
  • HP South Africa Trust

South Korea

  • HP Korea Inc.

Spain

  • HP Printing and Computing Solutions, S.L.U.
  • HP Solutions Creation and Development Services S.L.U.

Sweden

  • HP PPS Sverige AB

Switzerland

  • HP Europe BV, Amsterdam, Meyrin Branch
  • HP International Sàrl
  • HP Schweiz GmbH

Taiwan

  • HP International Pte. Ltd., Taiwan Branch
  • HP Taiwan Information Technology Ltd.

Tailand

  • HP Inc (Thailand) Ltd.

Tunisia

  • HP Inc Tunisie SARL

Turkey

  • HP Bilgisayar ve Baský Teknolojileri Limited Þirketi
  • HP Bilgisayar ve Baský Teknolojileri Limited Þirketi Ankara Þubesi

United Arab Emirates

  • Hewlett‑Packard MENA FZ‑LLC
  • HP Computing and Printing Middle East FZ‑LLC
  • HP Europe B.V., Abu Dhabi Branch
  • HP Europe B.V., Regional Dubai Branch
  • HP Inc Gulf

Untied Kingdom

  • Aurasma Limited
  • HP Inc UK Holding Limited
  • HP Inc UK Limited
  • Palm Europe Limited

United States

  • Compaq Information Technologies, LLC
  • Computer Insurance Company
  • Hewlett‑Packard Company Archives LLC
  • Hewlett‑Packard Development Company, L.P.
  • Hewlett‑Packard Enterprises, LLC
  • Hewlett‑Packard Products CV 1, LLC
  • Hewlett‑Packard Products CV 2, LLC
  • Hewlett‑Packard World Trade, LLC
  • HP Hewlett Packard Group LLC
  • HPI Bermuda Holdings LLC
  • HPI Brazil Holdings LLC
  • HPI CCHGPII Sub LLC
  • HPI CCHGPII LLC
  • HPI Federal LLC
  • HPI J1 Holdings LLC
  • HPI J2 Holdings LLC
  • HPI Luxembourg LLC
  • HPQ Holdings, LLC
  • Indigo America, Inc.
  • Palm Latin America, Inc.
  • Palm Trademark Holding Company, LLC
  • Palm, Inc.
  • Shoreline Investment Management Company
  • Tall Tree Insurance Company

Vietnam

  • HP Technology Vietnam Company Ltd

References

  1. ^ "Exhibit 21: Subsidiaries of HP Inc". U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. October 31, 2017. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)
  2. ^ "Exhibit 21: Subsidiaries of HP Inc". U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. October 31, 2017. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)

After looking at other companies, I'll go with the separate article. – BrandonXLF (t@lk) 19:37, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Solutions?[edit]

What on earth are 3D printing solutions? if 3D printers is meant, say so. 31.52.252.141 (talk) 16:23, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Chromebook[edit]

I think chromebook should be added to the current list of Laptops PranshuT (talk) 10:39, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I agree Shellyshubh (talk) 05:39, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RfC for removal of controversies related to predecessor companies[edit]

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Consensus was reached to remove the controversies related to predecessor companies noting that "Xinjiang region" should be kept. Gusfriend (talk) 09:45, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I propose that controversies related to predecessor companies be removed from the HP Inc page as they are already covered on the Hewlett-Packard page. There is no need to duplicate information here and the company has changed structure, etc. since they occured. Gusfriend (talk) 02:19, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - no need to duplicate the entire list of controversies. --ZimZalaBim talk 02:40, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - those actions were taken before the old Hewlett-Packard split into HPE and HP, and some of them may have been taken by the part of Hewlett-Packard that ended up in HPE. Guy Harris (talk) 04:56, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - No need for more than a link and a summary about their predecessor saying who they were and why the change - the things that are relevant to HP Inc. NadVolum (talk) 08:44, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support excluding subsection "Xinjiang region", which seems to be relevant to HP Inc. P1221 (talk) 09:16, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Everything except the most recent section, which covers allegations made after the new entity was formed, could be radically summarized and linked to the other page. PraiseVivec (talk) 13:43, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - No need to dabble with the controversies here. It's a separate company. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 14:05, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Total equity[edit]

This is presented in such as way as to suggest that it was a minus-figure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:5988:EC00:581B:FECA:7572:6CBE (talk) 14:12, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

According to Template:Infobox company, the "equity" parameter of the infobox that shows that information means:

Total equity or net worth held in the company; shareholder equity for public companies.

HP Inc. is a public company. According to the Investopedia definition of "shareholder equity":

The term shareholder equity (SE) refers to a company's net worth or the total dollar amount that would be returned to its shareholders if the company is liquidated after all debts are paid off. As such, SE is the owners' residual claim on assets after all debts are satisfied. Shareholder equity is equal to a firm's total assets minus its total liabilities. Retained earnings are part of shareholder equity as is any capital invested into the company.

According to HP, Inc.'s Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended October 31, 2021, page 57, the "Total stockholder's deficit appears to be the difference between "Total assets" and the sum of "Total current liabilities", "Long-term debt" and "Other non-current liabilities"; that sounds if it would be the amount shareholders would get if the company were liquidated, as all liabilities would have to be paid off, not just the "current liabilities", so it's the shareholder equity - which, being a deficit, is negative. The total stockholder's deficit has the value 1,650 million USD, so the shareholder equity is -1,650 million USD or -1.65 billion USD. Guy Harris (talk) 18:52, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge request[edit]

Keep. (non-admin closure) QueenofHearts 04:33, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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In 2015 HP "split" but strictly speaking it involved the spin-off of part of its business which became Hewlett-Packard Enterprise. [1][2] The HP press release says that "HP (to be renamed HP Inc.) will continue to trade on the NYSE under the ticker symbol “HPQ”."[3] The old HP was simply renamed legally to 'HP Inc.' while spinning off a part of the business. It continued to trade with the same stock symbol, and it continued to use that same HP circle logo and brand (and the Hewlett-Packard name), while HPE went into another direction.

So I think we shouldn't have a separate article. the original HP did not 'cease to exist' in 2015, it was simply restructured and was legally renamed. Also take PRIMARYTOPIC into account, with the Hewlett-Packard article getting a lot of views and having a lot of content despite being "defunct".

FYI the German and Polish wikipedia articles for HP did not split them - the Polish article starts off as HP Inc. (prior to 2015: Hewlett-Packard Company), and that's how I think we should do ours too. Chiffonr (talk) 18:10, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Strictly Oppose Hewlett Packards article and HP Inc.s article are just too big to combine together. Both have a completely separate history, and HP Inc. is legally separated from Hewlett Packard Company. It's not a good idea. WiinterU (talk) 13:36, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also, per the last paragraph. No, think before you speak. Just because one version of Wikipedia does something doesn't mean we should do the same thing. Merging articles removes important information. WiinterU (talk) 13:39, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Another thing, this has been brought up before. I am confused why you would decide to bring this up again. WiinterU (talk) 14:47, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://eu.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/business/2015/09/16/hp-jettison-up-30000-jobs-part-spinoff/32500843/
  2. ^ https://www.wired.co.uk/article/autonomy-bought-hp-micro-focus
  3. ^ https://investor.hp.com/news/press-release-details/2015/HP-Board-of-Directors-Approves-Separation/default.aspx
Oppose – Even though the original company technically still exists, virtually all reliable sources characterize its split as one that effectively created two new separate companies rather than a simple spinoff, with some heralding it as the end of the old HP or (at least) the end of an era; examples include The Wall Street Journal, Vox, Reuters, KCBS, Fortune, Computerworld, and TechRadar, with the old HP affirming such views in an investor presentation (as seen in Ars Technica). As for Wikipedia in other languages, the point is moot since each of them have their own standards for notability; since this article is on the English Wikipedia, we need to evaluate it by the English standards, and the often-complex nature of corporate histories means that there is no one-size-fits-all standard that can be applied across all companies. With that said, I doubt the overall sentiment has changed since the last time this merger was proposed. CascadeUrbanite (talk) 07:32, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think even if you're convinced that it was a split, we should remember that for the average person who doesn't know about the legal company stuff, HP has remained HP. The brand, the industry, it is the same as before. That weakens the case of if you genuinely believe it was a split. An article like AOL hasn't been divided either despite also technically the original company no longer 'existing'. --Chifonr (talk) 18:20, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"The average person" would know about HP mostly from its personal computer and printer product lines. HP itself didn't enter such markets until the 1980s; the company itself was mainly focused on scientific and business equipment until then. In terms of successorship, I think the 2015 split resembles Motorola's 2011 split, which also produced two successor companies; the only major difference was that Motorola sold off what it was most known for among the general public while HP kept it, though one could argue that HPE received some noteworthy products that the general public previously associated with HP. Regardless, I think the average person would recognize that the HP of today isn't the HP that existed post-Compaq merger. CascadeUrbanite (talk) 22:17, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The thing is the 1980s was over 30 years (a whole generation) prior to the 2015 "split". It weakens the case as a result. Your last sentence is one I definitely disagree with, that people view this as the same company as it was at least around the Compaq merger. We definitely need some more people to come here and voice their views about this matter. Chifonr (talk) 19:17, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging prior discussion members: BrandonXLF, Dicklyon, Guy Harris, SMcCandlish, Alex rosenberg35, Steven (Editor), Dgennetten, and Alexceltare2.
@Chifonr: Assuming you and Chiffonr are the same editor (judging by the edit histories), I highly suggest creating a user page to clarify your use of multiple accounts under WP:VALIDALT to avoid accusations of WP:SOCK. CascadeUrbanite (talk) 05:58, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes they are the same, I've been locked out of the old one (Chiffonr). Thanks for the warning, I'll write it in my userpage. Chifonr (talk) 10:33, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, why am I dragged into this? Alexceltare2 (talk) 15:51, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexceltare2 You participated in the the last merger discussion in support of it. I decided to ping all of those participants to see if the overall sentiment among you guys has shifted since then. CascadeUrbanite (talk) 17:58, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Yeah, i still support the merger. Simply because it's the same company but different subsidiaries. A whole article wouldn't be necessary and would cause confusion. Alexceltare2 (talk) 19:28, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I stil oppose the merger even after seeing the discussion grow. MrNoobNub2 (talk) 00:16, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"The average person" doesn't matter. HP Inc. and Hewlett Packard Company are legally seperate. WiinterU (talk) 13:40, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, The Hewlett-Packard company split into two, HP being one of them. HP is only part of Hewlett-Packard, not the same business. MrNoobNub2 (talk) 22:25, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Assuming that you're right, HP legally split in the strict sense, but it may not need apply in Wikipedia if it is unnecessarily complicates it. The HP split case is weakened by the same brand still used and the language about HPE being "spinoff" that has raised the question in the first place. Chifonr (talk) 23:15, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose. I don't feel terribly strongly about this. The OP raises some valid points, but there really is no hard-and-fast rule to follow on a matter like this. Arguments can be made in either direction. What we have now is a Hewlett-Packard (original company) article the lead of which makes clear that "On November 1, 2015, Hewlett-Packard was split into two separate companies; its enterprise products and services business were spun-off to form Hewlett Packard Enterprise, while its personal computer and printer businesses became HP Inc." And we have a fairly well-developed separarate article now for HP Inc. (and one for HPE). This situation is not objectively broken in any way. It's not our fault that HP decided, basically, to do something that's quite confusing. We just have to make the best of it. It would be possible to merge the HP Inc. article into the original-company article, but it would make it quite long, and this might ultimately just necessitate another spin-out into a separate article. We spin off "side" articles all the time, even for subtopics of a topic (which this could be considered, depending on your viewpoint), and this is not a problem. The problem is when one unrelated topic is glommed onto another; we call that a WP:COATRACK. But performing the merge would not be a coatrack, since the topics are in fact closely intertwined. A WP:N argument can be made: it is obviously true that "Hewlett-Packard" (original company), "HP Inc." and "Hewlett Packard Enterprise" all separately and severably meet the WP:GNG criteria of sufficient in-depth coverage in numerous independent, reliable sources. So, there really is no question about whether it is permissible for these subjects to be separate articles. The question is just the editorial judgment one of whether this three-article situation is what is best for the readers, and I lean toward thinking it is, because HP Inc. is markedly different from the original Hewlett-Packard – arguably more so than Hewlett Packard Enterprise is, since H-P originated in what we today call "enterprise" products, not the computer-and-peripheral stuff that HP Inc. is focused on. Maybe one could even argue that Hewlett Packard Enterprise should merge into Hewlett-Packard instead. (But I'm not actively suggesting that.)  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  13:00, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – The info at Hewlett-Packard is extensive, mostly historic, and mostly irrelevant to today's HP Inc. The split into HP Inc and HPE is a good point to draw the line, in spite of the continuity of legal entity and stock symbol. Dicklyon (talk) 15:54, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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