Talk:Gurl.com

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Article milestones
DateProcessResult
July 4, 2021Good article nomineeListed
September 23, 2022Featured article candidatePromoted
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 29, 2021.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Gurl.com's initial content used drawings of women instead of photos to avoid concerns about body image?
Current status: Featured article

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 20:33, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • ... that Gurl.com was created as a Master's Thesis project by three graduate students and provided non-mainstream content for teenage girls? Source: Girl Culture: An Encyclopedia (2007): The co-creators, Esther Drill, Rebecca Odes, and Heather McDonald, recognized that young girls respond to popular magazines about beauty, style, and pop culture, and they sought to create a girl-positive space for these concerns online with www.gURL.com, the product of a master's thesis project at New York University.
    • ALT1:... that the website Gurl.com also had a free website hosting service owned by Lycos called "Gurlpages"? Source: Sexual Teens, Sexual Media: Investigating Media's Influence on Adolescent Sexuality (2001): "gURLpages" (http://www.gurlpages.com), a web domain owned by the search engine Lycos and sponsored by dELIA'S clothing catalogue, contained a listing called "Browse gURLpages,", which yielded many helpful sites.
    • ALT2:... that Gurl.com's name is a wordplay on the acronym URL? Source: Girl Culture: An Encyclopedia (2007): The name "gURL" takes the idea of location on the Web (URL and feminizes it by playing a "g" in front of it.
    • ALT3:... that Gurl.com's initial content used drawings of women instead of photos to avoid concerns about body image? Source: The Cut (article): "Part of the directive was to not use photographs, because we wanted girls to be able to insert themselves and not compare themselves," Odes explains; in place of photos, gURL tended toward zine-inspired illustration.

Created by Lullabying (talk). Self-nominated at 04:28, 27 June 2021 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: None required.
Overall: AGF on all hooks. Good to go. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:02, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Gurl.com/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Tayi Arajakate (talk · contribs) 22:50, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hello Lullabying, I'll be the one to take up this nomination's review, which I will present shortly. I hope my feedback will be helpful and I get to learn something new in the process. Tayi Arajakate Talk 22:50, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Lullabying, I've completed the review. Great work on the article but some polishing is needed. See the assessment table and comments below for specifics. Feel free to ask me if you have any questions or concerns. Tayi Arajakate Talk 03:42, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment[edit]

  1. Comprehension:
  2. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (prose) The prose is good. Pass Pass
    (b) (MoS) Follows the manual of style. Pass Pass
  3. Verifiability:
  4. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (references) Inline citations are present. Pass Pass
    (b) (citations to reliable sources) Sources are mostly reliable. Pass Pass
    (c) (original research) No original research is present. Pass Pass
    (d) (copyvio and plagiarism) No flagrant copyright violation or plagiarism found. Pass Pass
  5. Comprehensiveness:
  6. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (major aspects) Covers all major aspects in fair depth. Pass Pass
    (b) (focused) Addresses the topic directly without deviations. Pass Pass
  7. Neutrality:
  8. Notes Result
    No neutrality issues were found. Pass Pass
  9. Stability:
  10. Notes Result
    No edit warring or content disputes. Pass Pass
  11. Illustration:
  12. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales) Tags and fair use rationales are appropiate. Pass Pass
    (b) (appropriate use with suitable captions) Captions and use of images are appropiate. Pass Pass

Comments[edit]

  • The article needs copyediting. There are a lot minor mistakes here and there. For example; the first line in the lead might need a "," before "that", the second line in the lead is missing a "was", the caption in the infobox should say "2018" instead of "2011", the fourth line of the second paragraph of history doesn't need "while" and "in beginning", ref 8 says its from Variety but it's instead from The New York Times, the second last line of history should say "u" instead of "o", etc etc. These are just in the lead and the first section, there are more like these afterwards. The section under content uses present tense in some lines, which should be in the past tense. "satisfaction in marriage" needs an ending quotation mark.
    •  Done Ref 9 is fixed; "o" to "u" is fixed. lullabying (talk) 06:30, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • "Satisfaction in marriage" is fixed as well. lullabying (talk) 06:32, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • I changed the caption in the infobox to "since 2011" instead. lullabying (talk) 06:35, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • "Was" is added to the second line in the lead. lullabying (talk) 06:38, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • No comma before "that" in the first line of the lead is grammatically correct. Can you suggest another way to reword? lullabying (talk) 06:46, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
        Lullabying, how about replacing "was online" with "operated" then? Anyways, this one doesn't matter much I just think it can look a bit odd at first glance. Tayi Arajakate Talk 07:32, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • Some writing has been changed to past tense. Thanks! lullabying (talk) 06:53, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • I removed "in beginning"; it was supposed to read "beginning in." lullabying (talk) 20:23, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The fourth line of the second paragraph says that the site was non-commercial. This isn't what the citation says. Non-commercial includes more than not having merchandise, it implies it was ad free as well which isn't clear here.
    •  Done I added a source for it. Ref 5 (Community in the Digital Age: Philosophy and Practice) mentions Gurl.com was an example of a decline in non-commercial media aimed at children and discussed its ethics in its inclusion of advertising. lullabying (talk) 20:30, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 9 is a primary source, it should be replaced with a secondary source if possible.
    • Ref 9 is The New York Times; do you mean a different one? lullabying (talk) 06:30, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Do you mean ref 19? Unfortunately I could not find a secondary source for it, given that this was 10 years ago and news media sometimes don't report on website changes. lullabying (talk) 06:36, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      Yes, that's what I meant and that's alright. Tayi Arajakate Talk 07:18, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Aspirational fantasy could be wikilinked to aspirational brand.
  • I think "most media outlets" should be changed to either commentators or reviewers.
  • The first line describing the first logo could be moved in the body of the article.
    • It's already in the body of the article, at the end of the first paragraph. lullabying (talk) 06:35, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      Sorry I meant the second line, which describes the logo. It makes the caption appear as large as the image itself. Tayi Arajakate Talk 07:17, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tayi Arajakate Talk 03:26, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

      •  Done I took it out. lullabying (talk) 20:18, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
        Lullabying, I've read through the article for a second time and I'm going to promote this artice now since most of the issues have been resolved. There's one minor issue though which i would request you to correct, the second line under content should be in the past tense and the first two lines under legacy should be in present tense. Tayi Arajakate Talk 23:59, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Much earlier iteration of article[edit]

I'm here because this article was highlighted in the Signpost's featured content report. Since it's about a relatively old website, I was curious about when the article was started. It turns out that there's a very old iteration that was deleted through the proposed deletion process in 2007. As an admin I've restored its history at its deleted location, gURL.com, along with its talk page. Graham87 08:54, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]