Talk:Grand Duchy of Baden

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Merger proposal[edit]

99% of the articles come from the same source. The Baden article is entirely copied from the Encyclopædia Britannica entry, which was made specifically for the Grand Duchy of Baden status in the year of 1911. There's no reason to put info about a specifically year in a article that period covers more then 900 years of history. And for the others periods of Baden history there are plenty of articles, as History of Baden, County of Baden, Duchy of Baden, Electorate of Baden and Free People's State of Baden. Jack Bufalo Head (talk) 23:33, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As no one cared to appear, I will make the merge. Jack Bufalo Head (talk) 21:54, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Industry section and geography section[edit]

Why is the text here in the "industry section" and "geography" in the past tense? Is industry in the region different now? Is the geography different now? Could somebody who knows either correct the tense or add something about modern times please. RuthLivingstone (talk) 08:29, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about a state that ceased to exist in 1918. The discussion of agriculture, game animals, wine-growing, etc., in the section "geography" should really be re-written to reflect what the case was during the existence of the Grand Duchy prior to 1918, not now.Smeat75 (talk) 19:32, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't about nowadays. It was written in 1911. Moagim (talk) 23:25, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removed references to modern politics etc[edit]

This article is about a historical state that ceased to exist in 1918. Therefore I have removed the sentence "Due to the traditional rivalry between the populations of Baden and Württemberg, there was a strong opposition in Baden (predominantly in the South) against the unification of the two initially independent Länder. In recent years patriotism in Baden has increased again, mainly due to discontent with the politics of the government in Stuttgart (situated in Württemberg)" from the section "population" as this relates to developements after 1918 and should be discussed in other articles than this one.Smeat75 (talk) 19:27, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

About Baden and Württemberg[edit]

As I wrote elsewhere [1], a sockpuppeteer (variously known as -Ilhador-, Jack Bufalo Head, Moagim) tends to confuse historical polities with geographical regions and his edits and controversial moves had to be reverted. --Omnipaedista (talk) 16:26, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Copy and Paste[edit]

This edit [2] looks like a copy and paste from a previous version of wiki. The source for such moves/content needs to be attributed. I also seem to be poorly cited and I suggest fact check.--Lucas559 (talk) 22:13, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE Copy-edit of November 2 - 3, 2015[edit]

In response to a request for a copy-edit of Grand Duchy of Baden at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests, I have begun to review the article. I will post any concerns I have here.

1) In the section Grand Duchy of Baden#The French Revolution and Napoleon is the following sentence:

Charles fought for his father-in-law until after the Battle of Leipzig in 1813, when he joined the Allies.

In this sentence, the word "Allies" is linked. However, it just goes to an article that defines the uses of the word. I don't think that is helpful here. A reader would probably want to know which countries were allied against Napoleon. I recommend either linking to another article, or section of an article, or naming the allies. Corinne (talk) 01:19, 3 November 2015 (UTC) I see at the beginning of the article on the Battle of Leipzig that there were quite a few countries; it would be cumbersome to name them all here. Is there a section of an article that specifically calls these countries "allies"? If so, perhaps the link can be to that section. If not, perhaps just remove the link at "Allies". Corinne (talk) 01:24, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm unaware of a specific article. Maybe it's better to link Sixth coalition. Mother Gota (talk) 01:40, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

O.K. Thanks. Corinne (talk) 02:03, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2) Early in the section Grand Duchy of Baden#The French Revolution and Napoleon is the following sentence:

When the French Revolution threatened to overflow into the rest of Europe in 1792, Baden joined forces against France, and its countryside was devastated once more.

I paused at "Baden joined forces against France". Usually, when the phrase "joined forces" is used, the person, group, or army/armies with whom, or with which, forces are being joined are given. "Baden joined forces with......against France." With whom, or with what? The sentence is kind of vague without it. Corinne (talk) 21:11, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

3) In the section Grand Duchy of Baden#Population, there is a red link at "Swabian Plateau". I was searching for an article, or section of an article, to which the phrase could be linked. Can anyone find an appropriate link? Corinne (talk) 22:11, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

4) In the section Grand Duchy of Baden#Industries is the following sentence:

The grand-duke was a Protestant; under him, the Evangelical Church was governed by a nominated council and a synod consisting of a "prelate", 48 elected and 7 nominated lay and clerical members.

The way this sentence is worded, it sounds like the "prelate" is the combined group of "48 elected and 7 nominated lay and clerical members". However, the word "prelate" [3] normally refers to a person (a clergyman). Even with the quotation marks around it, it is still wrong, and the sentence does not make sense. Can anybody fix this? Corinne (talk) 23:04, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]