Talk:Good ol' boy

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Other Meaning[edit]

In the Midwest, (I live in Indiana) I have only ever heard this term refer to post/prohibition-era moonshine runners. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.240.197.147 (talk) 19:44, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

bias[edit]

This page is incredibly biased.

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What about American Pie's "good ol' boys drinking whiskey and rye"? 205.174.22.28 23:38, 21 June 2006 (UTC) jlkjlkjljljpklm; —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.249.153 (talk) 17:10, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Am I the only one who finds this erudite description of good ol' boys outright funny? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.54.143.99 (talk) 01:58, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. LOL OckRaz ^talk 06:39, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Wolfe[edit]

The fiction author, Tom Wolfe, has claimed to coin the term good ol' boy.

Taken from http://www.tomwolfe.com/bio.html: "Wolfe seems proudest of "good ol' boy," which he introduced to the written language in a 1964 article in Esquire about Junior Johnson, the North Carolina stock car racing driver, which was called "The Last American Hero.""

This information is also cited on The National Endowment for the Humanities website (http://www.neh.gov/whoweare/wolfe/biography.html) along with many others.

Deletion?[edit]

I tried to list this page as a candidate for deletion, but I can't get it to show up on the AfD page right (if you know how to, please consider putting it there in my stead). So I'll list some considerations here for now. Clearly, as of July 26 08, the article is garbage: a bunch of unverified impressions about how someone perceives this term is usually used, complete with "quotes" that don't quote anyone and embarrassingly unverifiable junk like: "Good ol' boys are generally thought to..." and "the term thus has generally a positive connotation..." On the other hand, there is a list of cultural references, most if not all of which are verifiable. Does that make it worth keeping, on the hope the facts can be augmented and that the garbage around the facts might be replaced with some actual content? 89.176.31.200 (talk) 07:34, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATE: Metropolitan90 hast put it on the AfD page for me; ta. 89.176.31.200 (talk) 15:55, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling[edit]

while it may be deleted, i still corrected the spelling of the "dukes of hazzard". It said hazard. Gigakight (talk) 04:57, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blues Brothers[edit]

I removed the joke about "both kinds of music: country and western". It was used wrt the preferred music at Bob's Country Bunker, and not specifically The Good Ole Boys' genre. In any case, we never hear them sing so we don't know their style of music, which is only implied.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:20, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

'Old boy network'[edit]

I am not certain but I am reasonably sure that the etymology behind 'Old boy's network' stems from 'old boy' meaning alumnus, e.g. old boys from Eton being 'Old Etonians'

I have always understood the meaning of 'old boys network' to imply relationships forged in private schools, which are by nature exclusive, containing only the children (and until recently, sons only) of the well-to-do and influential. I have never heard 'old boy network' used in the sense that it implies anything to do with "good ol' boys" as I understand the term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.82.124.197 (talk) 19:46, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Irony[edit]

Is it just me or is this term often used in an ironic sense to mean pretty much the opposite?

Just granpa (talk) 14:23, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sort of. It basically means someone has the right connections that allows them to get away with things that others would not. The authority figure they have connections with (someone they grew up with, friends with their father, etc) might describe them as a "good ol' boy" and may even legitimately believe it. When used in a negative sense "good ol' boy" seems to be more about pointing out the stark contrast between how the authority figure is describing the person versus how they actually are.--Craigboy (talk) 08:39, 8 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion on ethnic slurs template.[edit]

I have started a discussion about the inclusion of this page on the ethnic slurs template which can be found at Template talk:Ethnic slurs#White slurs.3F TonyBallioni (talk) 20:40, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]