Talk:Goliad massacre

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Untitled[edit]

Can anyone give me any extra information about why the Texians where in the open prairie? Thanks! 99.189.229.232 (talk) 23:53, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Follow this link here from the article. 128.194.23.230 (talk) 09:52, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistency[edit]

The article is or seems to be internally inconsistent. The first paragraph states "The massacre was reluctantly carried out by General Jose de Urrea". However, in the massacre section it states "Santa Anna responded to this entreaty by repeatedly ordering Urrea to comply with the law and execute the prisoners. He also had a similar order sent directly to the "Officer Commanding the Post of Goliad". This order was received by Portilla on March 26, who decided it was his duty to comply despite receiving a countermanding order from Urrea later that same day." It continues "The next day, Palm Sunday, March 27, 1836, Colonel Portilla had ...". So, which is correct, or is the truth more complicated still? Brian Hardy 54 (talk) 02:32, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox[edit]

Can we get rid of the infobox? If this is to be an article about the massacre of the prisoners, it's sickeningly offensive to include an infobox as if it were a military engagement, let alone to describe that event (as the infobox does) as a "Mexican victory." If the article is to be about the battle that culminated in the capture of the prisoners, it should have a different title. (This is not only a problem here, but also at other articles such as the Moro Crater massacre article.) 206.208.105.129 (talk) 16:44, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and I have now removed the infobox. Karanacs (talk) 23:32, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Execution or killing[edit]

I am unsure whether the word execution applies especially in the context of interpretation as massacre. Words such as "murder" and "execution" both imply being on one side or other of legality. I think that a description of "killing" may more neutrally describe the action involved. At present the description and the stated conclusion seems at odds with each other. Greg Kaye 15:48, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You have a good point. I'm going to revert my revert for now. I hope to rewrite this article later this year - I need to see which terms the sources use when. Karanacs (talk) 16:14, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Of the Title[edit]

The following may sound perfectionist, but it is quite confusing:

The title is "Goliad massacre", right?

So, in the first paragraph in bold, is "Goliad Massacre".

Was this intentional or just a mistake while creating the article? If it was a mistake, is it possible we move it - if we can?

(There may a be a redirect from "Goliad Massacre", though. :\ )

(⁂) WikiGuiGuy (⁂) (talk) 01:14, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

wtf does this mean???[edit]

to quote the article: "The massive number of Texian prisoner-of-war casualties throughout the Goliad Campaign led to Goliad being called a massacre by Texas-American forces and fueled the frenzy of the Runaway Scrape."

Now what? "Casualties"? What about "murder victims"? This whole paragraph is inconsistent with rest of the article.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wefa (talk • contribs) 00:52, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]