Talk:George Brian Sinclair

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Another ref[edit]

Looking at the DYK nom for this page... Found a newspaper citation: [1] Slambo (Speak) 15:13, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see the whole text, but it looks like [2] is also in reference to the subject. The search result snippet says: "It is hoped to present M. Huet with his Certificate of Fellowship at the PIARC Congress to be held in Sydney, Australia in October. RETIREMENT OF 'GUS' SINCLAIR Following his retirement in June as Engineer-in-Chief, Royal Corps of ..." Slambo (Speak) 15:36, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Slambo. The first ref is for his Order of the Bath which is in the article already. The second ref goes on to say "...Engineers, Ministry of Defence, a post which he has held since July, 1980, Major-General Brian 'Gus' Sinclair has been appointed one of 12 Colonel Commandants of the Royal ..." which is also already in the article - Dumelow (talk) 15:55, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, that's about the level of additional information that I get on some of the railway articles I work on. Thanks for checking them further. Slambo (Speak) 19:13, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 13:24, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • ... that George Brian Sinclair worked on a sewerage system for a Korean village, a British thermonuclear weapons test and the Channel Tunnel? "he was told to design a sewerage system for a Korean village ... Sinclair was sent to Christmas (now Kiritimati) Island ... as adjutant of the Royal Engineer regiment supporting Operation Grapple ... later worked for Tarmac Construction on the Channel Tunnel project" from "Major-General 'Gus' Sinclair obituary". The Times. 28 May 2020. Retrieved 2 June 2020.
    • ALT1:... that George Brian Sinclair relocated more than 80 structures from a British training base in Libya after the 1969 coup? "the views of the man on the ground prevailed and the camp comprising 85 Twynam hits, two aircraft hangers and a variety of store sheds was dismantled and shipped to other bases" from "Major-General 'Gus' Sinclair obituary". The Times. 28 May 2020. Retrieved 2 June 2020.
    • ALT2:... that in the 1970s Brigadier George Brian Sinclair fought off a mugger in Chatham, Kent?"in the late seventies, he was walking home across the common in Chatham when he was attacked by a would-be mugger. After "retaliating vigorously", he chased his assailant until he was lost to view" from "Major-General 'Gus' Sinclair obituary". The Times. 28 May 2020. Retrieved 2 June 2020.

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 10:16, 3 June 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • -- First review - it is definitely new enough as it was created on June 2. The text is long enough and on a quick read-through seems neutral enough to me. There are several references to the London Gazette, and a couple other sources, but I would like to see a wider range of sources cited (I found one newspaper citation in a very quick search, as noted on the article talk page). The obituary is behind a registration required wall, but knowing the quality of The Times' reporting, I trust that the statement is verified there. The subject of the article is one who has died within the last month; while it is possible that more information may come to light soon, it is more likely that the data is also stable. I like the first hook of these three, but I wonder if it could be tightened up a bit. Slambo (Speak) 15:26, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Slambo, thanks for your review. Perhaps this revised hook works? I've had a look for some more sources but drew a blank. I already have the information contained in the sources you've suggested on the talk page. I'll keep my eyes open for any other obituaries - Dumelow (talk) 16:03, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I like that much better. It would make me curious enough to check into it further. Slambo (Speak) 19:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Eddie891 (talk · contribs) 22:10, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Prose
  • "Sinclair directly witnessed a number of nuclear tests during Operation Grapple, and twenty years later" I think it'd be worth specifying the year
The Times states "some twenty years later" (ie after 1976) and the Telegraph that it was in the last five years of his career (so 1978-1983). I've gone for "in the late 1970s" - Dumelow (talk) 10:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the recovery of 85 Twynham huts" what is a 'twynham hut'?
It's a temporary accommodation building developed by the MoD in 1959. I'll see if I can scrape together enough info to put an article together rather than add detail to this article - Dumelow (talk) 10:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "becoming known as "that Sapper brigadier who solves problems and gets things done"." by who? Everyone?
The Times says by the British force on the island, but nothing more. I've added this in - Dumelow (talk) 10:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "and improved for use Phantom fighter jets to allow the Royal Navy's two aircraft carriers to return to home waters." I don't see the connection between the Royal Navy and the airfield-- could you explain that a bit?
Clarified, hopefully - Dumelow (talk) 10:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "This led to a dispute with the government during which Sinclair " what was the dispute over?
Whether the army should carry out the runway work (which would come from the defence budget) or if private contractors should be employed (which would come from general funding), I've tried to clarify this - Dumelow (talk) 10:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The January 1983 replacement of John Nott as defence secretary by Michael Heseltine" so did Heseltine follow Nott in the role or was he the person who replaced Nott with someone else?
Ah, yes confusing wording. Heseltine replaced Nott. I've tried to clarify this - Dumelow (talk) 10:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Minor things, holding Eddie891 Talk Work 01:43, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review Eddie891, your copy-edit is good - Dumelow (talk) 10:36, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Source spotcheck
  • Sorry, Dumelow, forgot that I haven't checked the sources
    • Spotcheck lines up
  • Passing. Nice Eddie891 Talk Work 12:24, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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