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Opening *.fxw files from newer versions of Flux Studio in previous versions of Flux Studio[edit]

For opening *.fxw files from newer versions of Flux Studio in older versions of Flux Studio, please by using hex editor change in offset 4 given value to earlier value, for example to value 83 that corresponds to Flux Studio 2.0, and then open patched file that came from Flux Studio newer than 2.0. 83.5.40.6 17:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Instability of Flux 2.1[edit]

Because Flux 2.1 behaves in weird manner, you can download last stable Flux 2.0 from here: http://test.mediamachines.com/download/ and use it until Flux 2.2 arrives. 83.5.71.66 14:10, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Flux 2.2 never will arrive. Development of Flux was finished and finalized. Using of last Flux Player 2.1 and last Flux Studio 2.1 as they are described here: http://mediamachines.wordpress.com/ will solve this problem. 91.204.160.205 (talk) 11:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Additional mirror with stable Flux 2.0 is here: http://william.mediamachines.com/download/ 91.94.97.216 (talk) 15:36, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Newest Flux[edit]

Newest Flux (both Studio and Player) can be downloaded from these official sites: http://mediamachines.com/download/ http://www.mediamachines.com/download/ I provide these links because main page was replaced by something else unrelated to Flux. 79.162.22.222 (talk) 09:35, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect[edit]

It´s more important the physical meaning of Flux (and the link to the other stuff called Flux) that a lazy program, that redirect was advertising so I undone it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.3.154.43 (talk) 20:55, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You badly vandalized this article in this way, but hopefully somebody restored it. Wikinger 10:49, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

License[edit]

The license of "Flux Player" is NOT GPL (neither LGPL) ! (see http://www.mediamachines.com/player-agreement.php) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psychomad (talk • contribs) 10:13, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

License applies to Player™, but not Flux Player, because download after acceptance mentions Player™ name. 91.94.169.22 (talk) 10:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The license of "Flux Studio" is NOT GPL (neither LGPL) ! (see http://www.mediamachines.com/studio-agreement.php) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psychomad (talk • contribs) 10:13, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

License applies to Studio™, but not Flux Studio, because download after acceptance mentions Studio™ name. 91.94.169.22 (talk) 10:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now final?[edit]

The mediamachines.com announces that it is now final, and redirects there. Is the final Flux Player a finished Flux Player? This mediamachines.wordpress.com page says it is. Is Flux Studio now final Flux Studio? I couldn't find any reference to Flux on the old Flux site (site is broken), but if Flux is now final the lemma should be defined as final. See also "Support for Flux Studio" in the Flux bugtracker.

Note that Flux saves scenes as an encrypted proprietary format but can export to X3D, X3DV and VRML. --87.162.49.6 (talk) 20:40, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Media Machines is now final" simply means that this domain was made final. Flux homepage was moved here: http://mediamachines.wordpress.com/flux-player-and-flux-studio/ Final Flux is simply made final, thus defining of Flux lemma as final is needed at all.87.96.7.96 (talk) 09:52, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The mediamachines.com still announces that it is now finished when it still redirects there, so this only confirms that this domain became final Flux domain and nothing more, as I said before, because they affirmed their true statement about typological equality between unfinished Flux and finished Flux. 79.191.245.209 (talk) 12:39, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That means that final Flux is simply final Flux, not even beta of Flux, but something totally final made up to the end. 89.238.153.10 (talk) 12:57, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But is Flux still alive? That link is just a Wordpress blog with some old binaries for Windows Me and Windows 2000 hidden in .zip files. Is anyone still developing it? The latest entry is from October 2007.--87.162.45.80 (talk) 18:26, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Flux development stopped, thus these binaries are really last and final. No more releases of Flux will arrive. At least Flux users can have satisfaction that they have last and final versions of both Fluxes, that are capable of working on Windows Me and Windows 2000 - last and final operating systems without evil activation. Any clones of Flux from beginning no longer works on Windows Me and Windows 2000, thus as software dependent on activatable Windows, this whole bunch of Flux clones is useless for anyone that wants to be free from evil activation. 91.94.247.93 (talk) 15:46, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Flux (software) lemma already defines this software as both initial and final by using "initial distribution version" and "final distribution version" wording. 81.200.4.107 (talk) 18:46, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Flux better than games[edit]

Flux is much better than even VRML/X3D capable games: http://vrmlengine.sourceforge.net because Flux has no hardcoded WRL/X3DV/X3D filenames into executables. Because of that Flux is much more flexible and universal at all. 91.94.25.244 (talk) 10:42, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Flux as opposed to violent and and magical games, including those using VRML/X3D: http://vrmlengine.sourceforge.net does not include any violent and magical elements. 83.25.251.13 (talk) 08:34, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

These games are especially DRM-ed ones! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.41.227.77 (talk) 10:21, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Final version available before shutting off early MM site[edit]

Internet Archive —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.191.241.195 (talk) 18:01, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 129.6.162.93, 21 October 2010[edit]

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Reference 1 and the second External Link for a "Changelog" are both to the same location. However, the link is not to a "Changelog".

Reference 3 is dead.

The fourth External Link refers to a page that does not reference Flux.

129.6.162.93 (talk) 13:55, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks. -Atmoz (talk) 16:00, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 129.6.162.93, 27 October 2010[edit]

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1 - Please delete the "Fork" section and replace it with the following paragraph that makes more sense and is less confusing to the average reader. It is debatable whether this could be considered a fork. It was only in the mind of Archer888 that it was a fork.

In May 2008, MediaMachines became Vivaty^[1]^[2]. The Flux software was rebranded as Vivaty.^[3] However, on April 16, 2010, Vivaty shut down^[4]^[5] and Vivaty is no longer available.

2 - Please also delete the External Link to "VRML Browsers - Predecessors". This is irrelevant to Flux and all the predecessors no longer exist.

3 - Please delete from the 4th paragraph the sentences "WorldView was also distributed on Microsoft's Windows 2000 and Office 2000 CDs as Microsoft VRML in VRML2C.EXE file, containing PLATINUM WorldView for Internet Explorer. Due to that inclusion, and due to common authorship, Tony Parisi's VRML/X3D line of software can be treated as directly related to default Microsoft's VRML software, as similarly Internet Explorer and FrontPage are default software for HTML in Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office." It is stretch and irrelevant to make the connection between WorldView and Flux.

These changes fix some of the changes that Wikinger and other sockpuppets such as Archer888 refused to change or compromise on.

Thank you.

129.6.162.93 (talk) 15:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done Thanks, Stickee (talk) 22:18, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have now trimmed parts of the fourth paragraph that are irrelevant to the subject. --Stickee (talk) 22:19, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can get Vivaty (buggy beta) here. Prerequisites (above Me/2K) are here. 188.40.154.172 (talk) 18:35, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So Vivaty is XP/VISTA only. 193.178.243.7 (talk) 13:25, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Really. I tried and it demands newer IE, so it SUX under Me/2K. 62.112.154.29 (talk) 14:00, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Vivaty company overview (click on Detailed Description)
^ [1]
^ http://www.exhibition3d.at/2008/05/15/fluxplayer-now-vivaty.html
^ http://games.venturebeat.com/2010/03/31/vivaty-shuts-down-virtual-world/
^ http://www.raphkoster.com/2010/03/31/vivaty-is-closing-down/

Edit request from 129.6.162.93, 17 March 2011[edit]

In the Vivaty section of the Flux page, can you add the fact that Microsoft acquired the assets of Vivaty.

http://www.engagedigital.com/2010/10/01/microsoft-buys-vivaty-for-new-project-may-be-looking-for-more-2/

129.6.162.93 (talk) 15:34, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done — Bility (talk) 19:12, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comparison[edit]

http://mediamachines.wordpress.com/

http://vivaty.wordpress.com/

They are like predecessor and successor. 81.200.4.107 (talk) 13:20, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2014[edit]

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Please add a statement describing the purpose of the software and what it actually does. 24.22.61.103 (talk) 20:58, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Question: I took a look at their website and I can't figure out what the software does. Would you be able to tell me? Stickee (talk) 00:14, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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