Talk:Florence Biennale
Old Conflicts[edit]
Dear Xywood:
The external link you added (bogusartfair) contradicts your false statements. It reads: "Although the event is a vanity show (i.e. you must pay to exhibit), it is legitimate and many artists have shown there happily." [1]
Regarding your other link, Robert Coane is simply a painter who has a webpage called "Art Alarm." It is just his personal opinions, speculation and misinformation: "Artists meet artists, sure, but what an expensive way to meet new "friends". . . I'd like to know how many people visit it during those 8 days in the middle of Winter?"
You write: "I won't bother to respond your false and stupid accusations." That is why your entry is considered vandalism - you repeatedly add biased personal opinions and unverified, misleading information without any supporting citations or neutral explanations.
Please let me know if I can be of further assistance to clear up your confusion.
Sincerely,
Web.Writer (talk) 00:00, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
To Web.Writer:
Wikipedia is the most democratic encycopedia, it is not in your ownership, hope you understand this.
I won't bother to respond your false and stupid accusations, I am writing according to facts and conscience. For example, you can check easily the pricing structure from the biennale website.
If you violate the wikipedia rules, I will have no choice but report your behaviour to the authority.
Xywood —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xywood (talk • contribs) 22:37, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Dear Xywood:
Please let me introduce you to this principle: "Wikipedia content is intended to be factual, notable, verifiable with external sources, and neutrally presented, with external sources cited." [2]
• Your "contribution" is simply a collection of deliberate false statements, anonymous personal opinions, and links to substandard speculation. You seriously disrespect the neutral nature of the article. I have no connection to the Biennale and do not present personal opinions about the quality of the art nor whether it is worthwhile to participate. My facts are supported by citations. Therefore, I am not "promoting" the event. After ten years and five successful exhibits, the Biennale is internationally recognized as a legitimate art event, and in no way can truthfully be labeled as a "scam."
Here are a few examples of your false and biased statements:
• Your statement: "anyone who has an art website is almost certain to be invited. In this way, with few exceptions, the artworks being displayed are of very low amateur quality." is obviously false and biased. Your belief that this is a valuable contribution to the article is misguided. I personally met several artists that sold work to major buyers. Also, a brief glance through the 900 page full-color hardbound exhibit catalog showing many well-established artists' biographies and illustrations of their work disproves your statement.
• Your statement: "Each participant paid 2400 euros (about $3500) for an exhibiting space of 2.5m x 3m. The organizers provide a shipping service, which may cost $3000 for shipping one 1m x 1m painting from overseas." is false and misleading. Many international business and organizational sponsorships pay portions of the fees for many artists. It is possible to participate with little or no personal expense. Your shipping information is also wrong. For example, one artist paid about $1600 US for door-to-door specialized art shipping; Italian customs documentation and duties clearing; set up at the exhibit hall prior to opening; and then return packaging and shipping for three paintings to and from Florence to New York State, USA. After researching other options, this cost was seen as a reasonable choice.
• Your statement: "However, many participants are happy to use this opportunity to get a Florence exhibition entry on their C.V." appears to be a snide personal remark that has no place in an article.
I will give you an opportunity today to correct your facts, add citations, and remove your personal bias from your contribution. However, if the entry remains as vandalism (deliberately and repeatedly adding false statements), then tonight I will delete it, as that is the correct procedure to follow.
Regards,
Web.Writer (talk) 18:27, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
To Web.Writer:
You have reverted to you previous version and vandalised and deleted mine many times already. This page is not for promotion puposes, please go elsewhere for that! As I have not edited any part your page now (other than the reference to UN partnership which I can not find clarification from the UN website), please respect my contribution and DO NOT remove the paragraph at the end and the relevant links. My observation is based on numerous visits, comments received from participants and visitors.
5:55, 20 December 2007 Xywood
Open Letter to Xywood:
My editing and corrections are based on attendance at the 2007 Biennale as a visitor over an eight day period, attendance at the awards presentations, and discussions with organizers and artists. I have researched facts and will add more citations soon. It was a fantastic experience!
In good-faith, I have edited my entries to include issues that you raised and added the citations you requested.
Please stop deleting my edits by reverting "Florence Biennale" to a version that contains false statements, bias, irrelevant information, and link policy violations. End the edit-warring and make some useful edits with citations and facts.
Why do you have such a "sour-grapes" attitude? Can you provide some actual facts to illustrate your points, or are you simply providing your personal speculation and innuendo?
3RR CAUTION:
Quoted from Wikipedia: Three-revert rule:
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Your recent Reverts:
1) 21:47, 19 December 2007 Xywood (Talk | contribs) (1,725 bytes) (revert back to the version before vandalized)
2) 10:41, 20 December 2007 Xywood (Talk | contribs) (1,447 bytes) (revert back to yesterday's page before vandalised by an anonymous user) (undo)
Sincerely,
Web.Writer (talk) 12:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Please note: My editing and corrections are based on attendance at the 2007 Biennale as a visitor over an eight day period, attendance at the awards presentations, and discussions with organizers and artists. I have researched facts and will add more citations soon. It was a fantastic experience! Web.Writer (talk) 22:39, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Xywood and 193.205.213.166, Why do you have such a bitter "sour-grapes" attitude? Can you provide some actual facts to illustrate your points, or are you simply providing your personal speculation and innuendo? Web.Writer (talk) 22:39, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
To Web.Writer:
You have reverted to you previous version and vandalised and deleted mine many times already. This page is not for promotion puposes, please go elsewhere for that! As I do not edit any part your page now, please respect my contribution and DO NOT remove the paragraph at the end and the relevant links. My observation is based on numerous visits, comments received from participants and visitors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xywood (talk • contribs) 15:55, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
- Ooh, heated (though outdated) edit battle. I'm going to give this page some attention.Warrenking (talk) 17:17, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
reverting to last non COI revision[edit]
The page history demonstrates a long term attempt by multiple IP editors to whitewash this page. I am going to revert to the last non-washed version, from 31 March 2017. --Theredproject (talk) 23:06, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Mistake[edit]
To whom it may concern I'm Valentina Piuma, as part of the Communication Department of Florence Biennale, I wish to signal incorrect and inappropriate information about the page of Florence Biennale.
1- "Artists shown in the exhibition pay a participation fee between $2700-$4000 to have their work exhibited in the biennale". This is a private information related to the organisation of the event. This information is false and reserved by Florence Biennale
2 - "Based on feedback from artists he had invited". Which feedback? Where I can find the source? Where I can read them? This information is not checked.
3 - "a former member of the selection committee for the inaugural 1999 exhibition criticized the high costs asked of participating artists, and poor experiences of the artists who participated; the jury member declined to serve on the jury again". According to these links https://www.florencebiennale.org/giuria-2017/ https://www.florencebiennale.org/comitato-di-selezione/ a "jury member" and a "member of the selection committee" are different people with different roles so the source is not reliable and the information is not correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valentina Piuma (talk • contribs) 12:14, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Reverting again to remove COI edits[edit]
Hello Valentina Piuma I am reverting your edits. You are the Press Officer for this organization, therefore you cannot edit this page. You have a WP:COI. Please refrain from doing so. All the sections you removed were well cited. I am adding this page to my watchlist, so that I can monitor it. I am also adding the COI Template to the page. --Theredproject (talk) 14:35, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
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