Talk:Fiona Russell Powell

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Notability criteria: "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such. "

She was a member of ABC.

Jenolen 09:40, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't believe that she meets the criteria for notability. She was not a proper member of the band, but rather more of a session musician, involved for a very brief period during the recording of one album, for which she provided what were essentially backing vocals. OneVeryBadMan 09:10, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

My understanding is that Russell-Powell and David Yarritu were at least briefly considered members of the group. Ths seems confirmed by the the official ABC and Martin Fry website, which recaps 1984 with "Stephen Singleton retires from the band and returns to Sheffield. Fry and White travel America in search of new members. David Yarritu and Fiona Russell-Powell join the group. The single How To Be A Millionaire is released in October." Victoriagirl 22:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

If she has any notability at all, it's for her career as a "journalist", not for the less than a year she spent in ABC videos and sleeves.

SEVERAL NO-NOs!

WOW, where do I start!? First of all, the entire article is in desperate need of Wikification. Secondly, about 90% of the content was placed here by the subject of the article herself, which creates a BIIIIG COI issue! Thirdly, this entire article violates WP:NOR as it is based on original research, albeit by the subject of the article!

Although I personally think that this whole article needs tagged for deletion, there might still be a valid use for it here. If it were completely re-done, with SOURCEABLE references, by someone who is NOT Fiona Russell Powell or closely associated with Fiona, then properly Wikified, this might work. Edit Centric (talk) 05:26, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your vigilence regarding the Wikipedia page about me. I think I am best qualified to write about my own life, don't you? For the record, I was neither a "session musician" or "proper musician" on the Zillionaire album. Everything I have written is true: I grew up in Sheffield, knew all the boys from Vice Versa days onwards. Martin's re-writing of history on his "official" ABC website is irksome to most of the people who have been part of ABC's line up at one stage or another. Whoever referred to me as a "journalist" is very rude and does not know her facts. I was a journalist before Martin and Mark asked me to join ABC, carried on with my journalism during it and afterwards. The reason I felt compelled to correct and expand this Wiki stub is because it is extremely irritating to see inaccuracies and falsehoods written about oneself. I admit I have been lazy about sourcing my comments but I can, although I don't know how to, so maybe one of you out there could show me how to do it. Alas, I will have to quote from some of my own articles, such as the one in The Times. You can verify some of my remarks from reading Mark Moore's online stuff, people from the Taboo days, and magazine articles from the time. I can dig them out if I go through lots of old boxes. I don't know who wrote this stub about me in the first place; I recognise none of the names in the history but I think the subject herself should know best what happened in her life and I don't appreciate being told otherwise. It's just laughable, frankly. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions - I would be happy to clear up any points. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.41.82.34 (talk) 07:18, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

My main concerns here are that first and foremost, this is an encyclopedia. Especially in the case of BLPs, content needs to be properly sourced. I personally would NOT edit an article about myself IF I was even nearly notable, due to the fact that there's always bound to be personal bias and COI issues. Even though I have always wondered what happened to the "Eden" of ABC's "Zillionaire" days, having been a fan in my teens at the time, I would still at this point like to see the content applied with all due and applicable "Wiki-quette" and policy considered. Cheers! Edit Centric (talk) 02:20, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

In retrospect; "I think I am best qualified to write about my own life, don't you?" For an autobiography, absolutely! For a press release? You bet! For an encyclopedia? Not necessarily. Edit Centric (talk) 06:41, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

What I think we should do here is first: source all material with verifiable source links. Anything not sourceable should be removed, or at least commented out until sources can be found. Second, if the subject has a picture of herself from ABC days or even currently that she owns, and wouldn't mind uploading to Wikimedia Commons under a CC-by-SA or other free-image license to use in the article, that would be outstanding! Edit Centric (talk) 06:48, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Very much agree with the assessments here. See § Time for a purge below. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 23:24, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Improvements

Wholly molly! Nice improvements, all we need is a picture of the subject and to expand the names of the resource links. Also, there is the "hyphen" issue. I'm thinking that the entire finished article can be MOVED to "Fiona Russell Powell" once done... Edit Centric (talk) 22:59, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to the person who re-did my Wiki entry so that it appears to adhere to the website's policy now. I shall endeavour to dig up a nice photo as requested. Then, hopefully, that will satisfy everyone including me! (F R Powell (talk) 13:46, 9 June 2010 (UTC))

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Time for a purge

Agreeing with the above at § SEVERAL NO-NOs!, I have to take the plunge on this article. (Sometimes one plunges before one flushes.)

• COI: All but about 50 words and possibly the infobox were generated by the subject of the article, F R Powell.
• Citations: The entire page contains only 4 cites, one of which is the subject/author's web site, another of which is itself dead, and the last of which contradicts the claim it's supposed to verify.
• Dead links: The subject/author's web site is no longer available, so the "Official website" EL is now dead.
• Issue tags: These issues have been tagged since 2010, ten years ago.
• I have done my best to find usable sources to verify, oh, anything in the article. I'll be adding these and deleting almost everything else. The effect will be dramatic and horrifying, I am sure. If anyone has reliably sourced info, please add it back in with ref citations (even in rough form). We can build up the articale again from that.

I hope to be done with the carnage in about an hour. Feedback here welcome at any time, of course. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 23:24, 13 August 2020 (UTC)