Talk:Evangelical Connexion of the Free Church of England

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This article relates to a new and independent Religious denomination with the UK. It is historically accurate, it has NOT been copied from anywhere else and is entirely original. The existence of the EC of the FCE is a historical fact (go to www.fce-ec.org.uk) and should not be deleted from Wikipedia when the existence of the FCE and the nonsense told about them on this encyclopedia is allowed.

By denying this article you would deny the existence and raison d-etre of up to 12 seperate Christian congregations throughout the UK. A far bigger group of people than are in many other groups that get a mention in Wikipedia.

Bucer 16:26, 13 July 2007 (UTC)Bucer[reply]

Can you provide references to independent reliable sources to back up the info in the article and show that it meets Wikiepdia's notability guidelines for organizations? --Finngall ^talk 16:32, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly is 'independent'? There have been reports in many of the main English Christian newspapers about this body - the Evangelical Times, Evangelicals Now, English Churchman, the British Church Newspaper and Church Times, to name but 5. 84.70.144.199 16:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The 'Church Society' has advertised a position in one of the churches on its website for some time now. The group is not 'tiny', but has churches scattered across England from Exeter, to Farnham, to Teddington, to Leigh-on-Sea, to Leeds, to Workington, to Middlesbrough, etcetera. One minister of the church has his testimony (including membership of the EC-FCE) on the Berean Beacon Website as well as published in German and French publications. The congregation I am minister of alone has over 60 attending the Sunday morning service - let alone the other congregation numbers.Bucer 17:00, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The previous article that has deleted was edited by someone probably unfamiliar with Wikipedia, and has full of POV statements. The previous vote for deletion was largely on the grounds that the article was biased, rather than that the subject is not important enough to go in Wikipedia. As this current article is re-written, it should not be deleted without a proper vote. If individual congregations can be mentioned in Wikipedia, surely a denomination, albeit a small one, is worth a mention. -- BenStevenson 21:48, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quite. Bucer 22:09, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the speedy tag. Note that several people in the original AfD said that a rewritten article could be worth keeping. Some references wouldn't go amiss though. the wub "?!" 08:57, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"John Alnwick" who frequently changes this page is quite clearly John Fenwick. He is not a member of the EC, and in fact is a bishop of the FCE who oppose the existence of the EC. He has taken various steps in the past to try to take buildings from their congregations, to prevent them being allowed to solemnize marriages in their buildings, and has stated that he would rather that the congregations cease to exist than be allowed to continue outside his version of the FCE.

As such it is rather sad that he frequently changes the facts as stated on this page to suit his own version of events.

I would therefore ask that this page be referred to the EC for completion, and then be locked so he can no longer change it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.249.55 (talk) 10:35, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]