Talk:Ermysted's Grammar School

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Drama?[edit]

Should the House Drama and School play be mentioned in here? Doran . 14:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Whyever not?--AlbertW 17:10, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'll add it to the Music section then. Doran . 22:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The closing paragraph cannot possibly be correct as stands; it suggests Simon Gregory wrote the music for First Years in 1990, although he was not at the school until some years later. During my time there, he wrote the music for two Clough-penned plays, The Wizard of Love and Eddie (1996 and 1998 respectively, I think, but I'd have to check. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 13:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The closing paragraph is definitely wrong. The music was written by a student, Chris Illingworth. I know, I played the sports master. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.102.214.6 (talk) 17:56, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Ermystedsshield.jpg[edit]

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yeah i would have to agree. The ermysteds logo is of no fair use to anyone, as it is somewhat of a snub. it should be creative commons, although it is incredibly common, and lacks creativity.

-ashworth the prime —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.245.37 (talk) 21:47, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

School Times[edit]

At what times does this school start and finish?

Starts 8.45am, ends 3.45pm. Lunch break 11.55am - 12.50pm. 86.29.22.99 (talk) 21:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New times as of April 2011,

Start 8.30am, ends 3.15pm Lunch break 1145-1210

Thank You

Steiny

As of 2016 Ermysted's Grammer School starts at 8:40 and ends at 3:45

xedre ^y 21:42, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The current school day described at the school website "starts at 8:45am and finishes at 3:45pm, during which time there are eight periods of 35/40 minutes each" with "lunch from 11:55 to 12:55", times that are almost identical to those first posted. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:42, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

School Council[edit]

Blanking a section on the grounds of entirely spurious concerns over reliability is hardly good conduct. Please could you explain why this group, specifically this group without reference to general Wikipedia protocol, is unreliable? 131.111.185.75 (talk) 08:36, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

From WP:RS: "Such sources include websites and publications expressing views that are widely acknowledged as extremist, or promotional in nature, or which rely heavily on rumors and personal opinions. ... Questionable sources are generally unsuitable as a basis for citing contentious claims about third parties." No Facebook group, sorry. Aditya Ex Machina 08:56, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The first sentence is presumably stating the definition of a "questionable" source. Fair enough. However, the biometric issue is not a "contentious claim about a third party". There is no question of whether it is happening, or whether a there is a groundswell of dissent. Nor is is the group "extremist", and it relies on subjective personal opinions only in the capacity of illustrating one group of people's reactions to the move. Moreover, blanking an entirely appropriate section of the article merely because of one supposedly questionable citation does seem a little like cutting off your nose to spite your face! 131.111.185.75 (talk) 09:03, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence about the school council does not need its own section, and can be merged. About this: There is no question of whether it is happening, or whether a there is a groundswell of dissent. There is, actually, a question of whether this is happening at all. We cannot use Facebook groups as evidence of dissent or reactions. They are not reliable sources and cannot be used as such. It would be like using a Myspace page, which is similarly frowned upon. I have asked for a third opinion, so we shall get a definitive answer soon. Aditya Ex Machina 09:41, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps for proof of the occurrence of this a scan of the documents detailing the plans (official school letters) would suffice? Certainly the facebook group represents the dissent shown by pupils; the original text described that there was a controversy and the group merely shows that this controversy is present.--86.148.247.201 (talk) 10:45, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, you're seriously suggesting that there is a reasonable chance that 270+ people, including members of the school council, have entirely invented this issue 'for the giggles'? This is just deletionism at its most damaging. Incidentally, it'll probably be in the Craven Herald soon anyway. 131.111.185.75 (talk) 10:56, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I concur with the above statement; and would like to note that not only will it likely be in the local newspaper, but has brought support from the Old Boys, many of whom may be writing letters of complaint. In addition, as it has already been pointed out, the facebook group's reference quite sufficiently serves the purpose of illustrating discontent amongst pupils; whether or not it validates the claim of a new system being introduced.

I wonder why it is they call you lot old boys. Could it perhaps be because your old, but like boys. Ermysteds is a wonderful school to learn many skills and really enhance your activities. but if truth be told, i find the lot of you absolutely disgusting! The section was clealy merged for a reason, and i for one, think it was a grand idea. Just fit it on the side of this page, its soo simple. Idiots! - Tommy Ashworth

--86.148.247.201 (talk) 11:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again. I've asked numerous people more knowledgeable about policy than me about whether Facebook can cited at all, in any way, as a source. The consensus was overwhelming. Facebook can never, ever be used as a source. A local newspaper article might suffice, but a Facebook group cannot validate a controversy / show dissent / show absolutely anything at all. I'm sorry, you'll have to wait until your local newspaper reports this. Aditya Ex Machina 07:28, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Revamp[edit]

This entire article needs one hell of a revamp. Prose needed in the history section, removal of clearly advertorial or biased comments in several sections...

Also, sources. SOURCES.

I'll make a start, any help is appreciated.

MrMarkBGregory (talk)

Argh Mark, you've made the spurious mistake of missing the point entirely. This page is for talking, and talking is what we should do. If you think you can moderate the past, then you should be put down, much like a pooch, for being almost entirely benign. If you want to update this page, then i suggest you start by removing yourself, your presence here, is not only unwanted, but also blatantly toxic to the life's of the children at this school. arrest yourself.

Thanks Matilda — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.4.103.125 (talk) 01:08, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Music[edit]

Ermysted's Grammer School has a Hymn should it be placed in the article; It was writen by C.A. Alington (1872-1955)

Also as for sources Craven Herald could be used it includes the new music teacher as well as a few other things. xedre ^y 21:53, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a name and source for the hymn? The student in the newpaper story was/is also a member of the National Youth Orchestra, which I'll assume is that of Great Britain. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:47, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]