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2A02:2430:3:2500:0:0:B807:3DA0 (talk) 23:27, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Dresden was part of a state in a personal union with Poland (Electorate of Saxony) and is a location that shared history between Germany and Poland and should include Polish name as per the vote(read the template above). Why some editors persist ignoring and violating the vote? Any excusing reason?2A02:2430:3:2500:0:0:B807:3DA0 (talk) 06:54, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
- A personal union should not be confused with a unitary or federal state. They were two completely separate states that just happened to be ruled by the same monarch for dynastic, or (in the case of Poland) electoral reasons. Dresden does not "share a history between Germany and Poland". It never was in any form part of any Polish state nor was there at any time in history a notable Polish population. "An English language reference that primarily uses this name should be provided on the talk page if a dispute arises." Can you provide an English-language reference that primarily uses Drezno? I don't think so. This is just a foreign-language exonym, just like French and Spanish Dresde or Italian Dresda. --RJFF (talk) 21:25, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
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Foreign language names and the Frauenkirche[edit]
@LechitaPL:regarding foreign names: A google search reveals a total of just over 2 million results (including double counting, including pages which are not truly in English, etc) for those 3 variants total, separated as follows:
- Drjezdzany yields 80k results, including WP mirrors/other Wiki- projects and many pages which are not in English..., [1]
- Drazdany yields more but those are mostly non-English [2] (only 2 English results (WP and Wiktionary) in first 5 pages of results...
- And "Drezno" yields 800k results, but those are [3] again mostly in Polish (the only non-Polish pages I can find, at a glance, are this one, a WP disambig page, Wiktionary, etc... - you get the picture)
As for Dresden, I find more than 120 million results for it. As such, these variants are not relevant under MOS:QUOTENAME and need not be mentioned. As was explained in the previous discussions, the Gdansk vote does not apply to this since the city does not have "a shared history with Poland" unless you use a very tenuous description of the term (which was rejected). Even if that vote did apply, the city is universally referred to (in English) as Dresden, unless maybe in listings of foreign language names. As such, There is no reason to include the Polish name, or any of the other translated names, except maybe in a "Names" section (and even then, arguing that we should include the Czech or Polish names is as bad an argument as saying that we should also include French "Dresde", Italian "Dresda", and so on - an English speaker is very unlikely to use those terms to look for this city, and the city was never Czech or Polish, so there's little historical ground for including them - the Sorbian name can go in the Etymology/Early history section, where it already is).
regarding the Frauenkirche:
The bombing of the city is already mentioned earlier in the lead, and no detail is given for either of the three other buildings. No reason we should go in too much details about this in the lead - simply mentioning that it was destroyed and rebuilt gives a better summary of the topic (details about the Frauenkirche and why it wasn't rebuilt go either lower in the article, or in the article about the church itself). Giving all those details in the intro would be WP:UNDUE. 198.84.253.202 (talk) 15:24, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
Dubious climate table[edit]
The climate table for 1991-2020 period for some reason shows the same precipitation as Düsseldorf, which made me doubt about the whole table. I made a new one for an older period. Please verify the weather box if you can.PAper GOL (talk) 18:53, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Found my answer. The precipitation values are for Dusseldorf not Dresden. I'm gonna fix it. PAper GOL (talk) 19:02, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
Request to rename "Soviet Republic of Saxony"[edit]
A request has been made to rename "Soviet Republic of Saxony" to "Saxony in the German Revolution (1918–1919)". With the renaming, "Soviet Republic of Saxony" would be removed from this page's infobox.
Please join the discussion here. GHStPaulMN (talk) 15:33, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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