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Q: There are many "rules" associated with this page. Why?

A: Recent deaths is one of the most-viewed articles in Wikipedia. Deaths in 2023 was one of the most-read Wikipedia articles in 2023, with over 48 million views.[1] It is important that such a high-profile article have factual information presented in a consistent format.

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A: Many notable people die before a Wikipedia article is written about them. The regular editors of this page have agreed that a death notice without an English-language article may remain for one month after the death, so that an article may develop. If there is no article after one month, then the death notice is removed from the list.

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Deaths needing proper citation[edit]

Via thorough browsing of the 2024 deaths category, I’ve found the following are marked as deceased and needing of proper citation. Rusted AutoParts 13:19, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 6 2023 - Jim Price, 78, American musician, producer and composer (forums and social media only so far)
January 2 - Larry Sherrer, 74, American football player (Montreal Alouettes, BC Lions) and ophthalmologist
January 22 - János Toldi, 96, Hungarian Olympic sprint canoer
January 25 - Rick France, 85, British speedway rider. (Death sourced on his page by Facebook)
March - Tommy Duncan, 87, Scottish footballer (Death sourced on his page by Twitter)
April - Danny O'Donnell, 85, Scottish footballer (Brentford, Brechin City, Tonbridge)
April 14 - Blackie Wangerin, 89, American racecar driver

Cole Brings Plenty[edit]

Why is Cole even on this page? He isn't a celebrity or any sort of significant individual!? Doesn't even have a Wikipedia page. Cflisthebest (talk) 21:04, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

His death is widely reported by reliable sources [2][3][4][5][6]. An independent biographic article based on these and no further coverage would be inappropiate, but certainly not its mention in an article dedicated to notable deaths. XxTechnicianxX (talk) 21:15, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We usually list redirects that have been created, either upon an entry's death or long before. His notability can be discussed elsewhere. As for his entry here, per the FAQ above, he will be removed in due time, if his article isn't expanded. Wylie pedia @ 23:53, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, the existence of his redirect means he should be given the one month leeway for an article to be written. Ref ^(chew)(do) 00:13, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

O. J. Simpson[edit]

Why are we ignoring the elephant in the room? Even if you just say he was acquitted, that's not nothing. This just feels like whitewashing to me. PF4Eva (talk) 00:10, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering if there was a way to incorporate...that...into his entry here, if it's even possible/appropriate to do so. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 00:17, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In a couple of places where I wanted to address the elephant in the room without risking any legal liability, I referred to him as the author of If I Did It. AndyENy (talk) 01:31, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Elephants have no place in this room, if it's not proven they trampled over anything. Ref ^(chew)(do) 07:16, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Might a suitable approach be to add 'subject of a notable trial' or similar? That way, the fact of the trial taking place is recorded, without straying into the question of how the outcome of it should be described. 217.155.59.206 (talk) 09:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But why - to what end? To taint the subject of the entry where it's not justified? Ref ^(chew)(do) 00:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I should've thought the answer was obvious - a major element of his notability derives from the trial; indeed outside the US, it would probably be the only thing he's known for. The trial having taken place is not in dispute, and I very deliberately suggested a form of words which is limited exlusively to recording that fact. This could in no conceivable way 'taint' anyone or anything.217.155.59.206 (talk) 13:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He is listed as: football player, actor, and Heisman Trophy winner. No mention of his "most notable" event ... Murder trial of O. J. Simpson. Why not? The language might be something like "defendant in murder trial" ... or ... "perpetrator of double homicide" ... or ... "perpetrator of wrongful deaths" ... or so. 32.209.69.24 (talk) 05:19, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

War Chant, really?[edit]

Is it really necessary to include a race horse in the list? This is supposed to be for famous people, and horses don’t count, as far as I’m aware. 95.168.105.35 (talk) 13:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anonymous, yes really. There are non-homo sapiens who are the subject of wikipedia articles. The date of death seems relevant. DarkStarHarry (talk) 14:13, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This list has included notable animals for many years. It's not as if this is the first entry over that time, and the subject has been debated on talk pages regularly. So much so that the onus is now on those who don't believe they should be included to start a formal discussion here and change the consensus from yea to nay (or is that "neigh"?). Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 14:32, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was beginning to wonder when the first thread about “non humans listed? Really?” Of 2024 would be. Rusted AutoParts 19:47, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"As far as I'm aware" are the key words. Read the fourth FAQ above and learn. Editrite! (talk) 05:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where does it say this article is supposed to be only for famous people?

The title is "Deaths in 2024"

If an animal has a Wikipedia article about it, it seems reasonable to report its date of death. It's been this way for deaths in previous years.

StuZealand (talk) 07:50, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree! 99,9 % of the list includes human beings - and then we have a horse here and there! It makes absolutely no sense that horses - most of them ordinary race horses - is on the list! Sorenrode (talk) 10:04, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because notability, not species is the main criteria. No death of a notable being is going to be of interest to everyone. Most people who are interested in racehorses, animal actors, etc. are also interested in other famous people; so as is, this page is a "one stop" spot for people looking for info on recent deaths. You may find this an im-purr-fect system, and if you keep visiting this page, certainly material you consider for the birds will keep dogging you, and that's ruff. But if they're notable to have a Wiki page, they're notable enough to be noted here. AndyENy (talk) 01:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maxwell Azzarello[edit]

Maxwell Azzarello died. 32.209.69.24 (talk) 05:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done by someone. Ref ^(chew)(do) 12:22, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To call him a "protester" is giving way too much credence to conspiracy theory. Could someone please change that, irrespective of any actual notability? 146.115.58.160 (talk) 03:36, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If anything, he was an exhibitionist, drawing more attention to himself than a cause. In 30 days (see FAQ above) he will not be notable here anyway. Wylie pedia @ 03:49, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I dunno about that. Awful lot of "Keep" votes at that deletion discussion. 32.209.69.24 (talk) 05:37, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We don't "keep" redirects here after 30 days. Wylie pedia @ 09:10, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I thought we "keep" (i.e., list) deaths when an article specifically names an individual ... no? I remember a long debate about this, years ago. The debate had something to do with: Fred West and Rose West; Shields and Yarnell; Captain & Tennille. Stuff like that. 32.209.69.24 (talk) 19:27, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Brown's death is listed for August 9, 2014. Justine Damond's death is listed for July 15, 2017. Stuff like that, also. 32.209.69.24 (talk) 19:35, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct. Event articles where the person is named as the primary subject are currently kept. Contrary to what I would prefer, I might say. Ref ^(chew)(do) 00:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have made the appropriate change. Editrite! (talk) 07:22, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]