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A fact from Czechoslovakia national football team appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 July 2014 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Josef Masopust was awarded the Ballon d'Or after helping the Czechoslovakian national football team reach the 1962 FIFA World Cup Final?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2014/July. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Czechoslovakia national football team.

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Czechoslovakian football history = Czech Republic football history?[edit]

Has the Czech Republic's national football team officially "absorbed" the Czechoslovakian team's history, according to FIFA? I mean like how West Germany's football history all became part of the re-unified Germany's. I haven't noticed anything regarding this...

No, there was not such an absorption. It was wrongly written in the article and it is corrected now. There are 3 quotations about it, however only the 2nd one confirms it. The 1st one says nothing about it and the 3rd one doesn't work at all. I'm historian and I even remember those times (1992-94). There was an agreement that both Slovakia and Czech republic will be treated the same way regarding the succession of the former Czechoslovak national football team. You can check the UEFA web page to see that previous successes of Czechoslovakia are not tributed to any of these two successors. They are both treated equally. It became a quite common and widely spread mistake that only Czech republic national football team is the successor of the former Czechoslovak national football team. The main reasons for this mistake are, according to my opinion, these facts: 1st - in some other sports there were different situations (e. g. the Czech republic national ice hockey team was accepted as the only successor of the Czechoslovak national ice hockey team), 2nd - in other countries, namely in Soviet Union and Yugoslavia, there were different situations, as in both these cases the new emerging football associations (Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgystan, Turkmenistan, Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia, Bosna and Hercegovina, and later even Montenegro and Kosovo) seceded from the previous country's united main association, thus leaving the continuers of its role as the sole successors (today's Russia and Serbia), 3rd - Czech republic has the same national flag as Czechoslovakia had, thus confusing many people. Both Slovaks and Czechs were officially recognized, equal and state-building nations of Czechoslovakia and after the dissolution of Czechoslovakia they both became the successor countries. So, there was none seceding and none continuing country. As for the history of Czechoslovak national football team, Slovak players contributed more in cases of both biggest successes of the Czechoslovak football - in both the club teams level and the national teams level (the only club team victory of Czechoslovak team in an European competition occured in 1969 when the Slovak team Slovan Bratislava won the former Cup Winners Cup and the only national team triumphe of Czechoslovakia, the title of the European Championships in 1976 was mostly reached by Slovak players, as 8 of 11 lineupers were Slovaks), however Czech players generally contributed more to the alltime performance of the Czechoslovak national football team - and not only because of the simple fact that there were twice as much Czechs than Slovaks in the country and so that there were more Czech football players than Slovak ones. The Czech football history and Czech football association were formed earlier than the Slovak ones, even earlier than the Czechoslovak ones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by N3V4D1 (talk • contribs) 19:42, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Qed237, why did you change the text the way it denies the quotations behind it? One of those quotations claims that both countries are successors, while your text claims only one country is. I thought quotations should support a text, not deny it. To what refers the text then? This completely undermine my trust in Wikipedia... I will not support it financially again if it should misleads users this way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by N3V4D1 (talk • contribs) 22:33, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agree.Linhart (talk) 23:28, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I realize I'm a couple of months late but FIFA clearly list Czechoslovak history with the Czech Republic - http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=cze/ see 'Information and Honours' - and do not do so in the case of Slovakia - http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=svk/. Similarly UEFA has Slovakia as 'never previously qualified' on their EURO 2016 profile page - http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2016/teams/team=58836/profile/index.html - while the Czech Republic has the 1976 championship listed - http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2016/teams/team=58837/profile/index.html. CCCVCCCC (talk) 08:42, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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