Talk:Corporate responses to the Russian invasion of Ukraine

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Purpose[edit]

This page replaces List of companies that applied sanctions during the Russo-Ukrainian War because no one can move to correct title per discussion.

Besides being the most complete list, this page addresses couple gaps corporate response "what they did" vs. "what they didn't do". Corporate actions are extremely hard to categorize, so I would ask all contributors to stick to the facts, cite sources and try to not subjectively describe companies actions.

DmitryShpak (talk) 19:56, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DiophantineEquation proposed renaming Corporate responses to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to List of corporate responses to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. I agree. Will wait for additional opinions till 3/15/2022 DmitryShpak (talk) 18:51, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:Piotrus proposed to use ILO https://www.ilo.org/global/industries-and-sectors/lang--en/index.htm as industry classification. Another option would be Global Industry Classification Standard - I'm OK with either as it's better than current free text. The issue is some corporations have multiple business units and as such would have to be listed in ALL? See Mitsubishi, GE, or Sony as examples. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DmitryShpak (talk • contribs) 20:15, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Table headers[edit]

I think the headers should change from "Suspended operations" and "Remaining operations in Russia" to something like "Actions taken on Russia/Belarus" and "Other actions taken" respectively, and reformat the entries accordingly. This is because the BBC set up two shortwave frequencies for Russians and Ukrainians, to counter the narrative by Russian state-owned media, which is not quite a suspension of operations. Also, due to the increasing length of the list, just saying, for example, "Exports to Russia" in the case of "Bentley" can be unintentionally ambiguous. Side note, the BBC entry has actions I think were meant for BASF. --Minoa (talk) 06:46, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think we need to change the headings, but I like the 'other actions taken. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:47, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]


--- @Minoa I'm not convinced Column Headers need to be renamed (I see the argument for "Actions taken on" as more generic, but "action" can be anything from total withdrawal to confirm no change in operation, which will be as confusing). When I named the columns I intentionally tried to avoid being "judgmental" and two columns is still a subjective breakup between two different groups of actions the company made (leave/stay). It is up to the public/journalists to make a call if company's decision is good or bad.

--- Whoever references Yale list: Yale team obviously did a lot of similar work and their list is over 450 records (some non-companies), BUT no links to company profile, expanded details, or citations make their list ambiguous at best. The list frequent with "suspended operations", which is sometimes just partial suspension, only for new clients, etc. I'm not a big fan. If you add any company from Yale list, PLEASE find and cite the source, not Yale list. I've reached out several times asking Yale team to join efforts, but some people prefer to have private lists (likely for name recognition, etc.). Hope the message will come across one day. DmitryShpak (talk) 02:09, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to all! Please ask your friends and followers on Twitter, other soc networks to help here. There are thousands of companies that need to be documented. Especially hard are industrials, not well known names, but still larger public corporations. DmitryShpak (talk) 02:09, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistent country column[edit]

Does "Country" mean the country in which the company is headquartered, or the country/ies the company does business in? It seems to be a mixture of the two, considering that:

  • Several have it as "Worldwide" although they are clearly headquartered in a specific location.
  • Conversely, many companies that trade all over the world have this given as a specific country.

— Smjg (talk) 14:45, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Olympics/Paralympics[edit]

"Banned Russian athletes from competing under their country's flag and anthem as a result of the state doping scandal."

Has this anything whatsoever to do with the invasion? The doping scandal has been going on since long before this. The Olympics closed four days before the invasion. It doesn't seem to me that even the imminence of the invasion or the pre-existing hostilities between Russia and Ukraine made any difference, but if it did then the article should indicate this. If it didn't, the action against Russia by the IOC shouldn't be mentioned here at all as it's off-topic.

Of course, the Paralympics are another matter. These opened just after the invasion, and Russian athletes were banned from participating altogether. However, the cited source doesn't seem to say this at all – all I see is that at the time the article was written the decision was still pending. — Smjg (talk) 19:13, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Promotional in effects[edit]

This article is substantially primary-sourced, and functions as an index of corporate press releases. Did any of this make RSes? - David Gerard (talk) 19:06, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many of them are able to be RS'd, though I think the article does need substantive cleanup. I think it would be best to separate the, by sector/industry (especially with regard to oil and gas), as some sectors have been far more notable than others. Exxon, for example, is actively litigating against the Russian government regarding its exit. (ref). InvadingInvader (talk) 20:59, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Burger King and KFC[edit]

Why is burger king and kfc isn't listed on this list?

or is it me that i can't find it? Some random account on this website (talk) 12:47, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why the extended protection?[edit]

I think the protection limits how many users can add info to the page, which in turns reduces its chances from being improved over time. But I understand that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is a topic that is more vulnerable to vandalism and such behaviors. CodemWiki (talk) 22:42, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The protection was applied [1] per Wikipedia:General sanctions/Russo-Ukrainian War. It's not readily apparent because the log entry applies to the original name of the article, not this one, while the protection was moved to this title. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:49, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 November 2023[edit]

Change to Dentons "Suspended operations" column, change "suspend services for all Kremlin entities" to "Suspend services for all Kremlin entities" (capitalisation). Mjesticfalco (talk) 11:37, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Tollens (talk) 12:14, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 November 2023[edit]

Change to ThyssenKrupp "Remaining operations in Russia" column, change "thyssenkrupp Industrial Solutions (RUS) LLC had 60 years of successful activity in Russia and the Soviet Union and currently has workforce of more than 400 employees in Russia" to "Thyssenkrupp Industrial Solutions (RUS) LLC had 60 years of successful activity in Russia and the Soviet Union and currently has workforce of more than 400 employees in Russia" (capitalisation).

Change to Swatch "Suspended operations" column, change "Suspend direct operations in Russia vef" to "Suspend direct operations in Russia" (removing "vef" from end of sentence, appears to be typo of some sort).

Change to Grant Thorton "Suspended operations" column, change "closing business in Russia" to "Closing business in Russia" (capitilisation). Mjesticfalco (talk) 08:20, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The first one appears to have already been done by someone else.  Done the other two. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:06, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 December 2023[edit]

iHerb row has a clear indication, 'Accepting orders in Russia', whereas the reference #178 that's supposed to be advocating this statement says otherwise, "Herb suspends accepting orders in Russia" (www.akm.ru). The latter statement is the absolute truth, as iHerb does not ship orders to Russia. Please change 'Accepting orders in Russia' to 'Not accepting orders in Russia'. Brainity (talk) 20:17, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I removed Iherb's entry as the company is not notable. M.Bitton (talk) 15:25, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 December 2023 (2)[edit]

Line: "iHerb -- Online retail" Where it reads "Accepting orders in Russia", it should read "Suspended product sales in Russia". Mercedes Revuelta (talk) 23:28, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I removed Iherb's entry as the company is not notable. M.Bitton (talk) 15:25, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 December 2023[edit]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 (talk) 21:46, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Minor edit[edit]

Under the section Companies suspending operations in Russia, in the table starting with:
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="margin: auto"
! Company
! Industry
! Country<br />{{clarify|date=April 2022}}
!width="35%"| Suspended operations
!width="35%"| Remaining operations in Russia

Change:
|-
| [[Skrill]]
| Banking
| flag|UK
|
|

to:

|-
| [[Skrill]]
| Banking
| {{flag|UK}}
|
|

The flag keyword is incorrect. TattooedLeprechaun｜🗣️💬 21:11, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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