Talk:Christian burial

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Rewrite[edit]

To begin with, the article is extremely long and dense - that is, it consists of long paragraphs not distinguished by subheadings or other reader-friendly features.

Secondly, it may or may not (I don't know) have been simply copied word-for-word from the Catholic Encyclopedia. Wikipedia articles should consist of original research. This guideline covers the problem.

Thirdly, the title is misleading because Christian and Catholic are not interchangeable synonyms. The article should be titled Catholic Burial - after all, cremation is a very common form of post mortem disposal amongst non-Catholic Christians.

So, my suggestions are -

  • Review the source material and try to summarise and shorten it down.
  • Plan a layout for the article which involves less imposing chunks of text.
  • Write up the article in your own words.
  • Do all this under a new title of Catholic Burial, and change this Christian Burial page into a disambiguation page

Darcyj 12:58, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of points:

  • Wikipedia should not contain original research - see This policy
  • Cremation is not burial, Christian, Catholic or otherwise

139.163.138.14 23:10, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have started rewriting portions of this article. Currently I am focusing on:
  • change wording that is archaic
  • rewrite sentences that are too long or overly complex in structure
  • reduce the length of the article (removing superfluous sections)
  • change the in text citations to use the <ref> format instead
After the above changes are made, which will take a while, there will likely need to be some work done to reorder the different sections to make sure the article flows a little better.
Kylef81 22:00, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone through each section and have removed a lot of extraneous material and tried to update the language as best I can. The article is now much, much shorter than it was originally, 12 printed pages down to 6 (compare with this edit: 67887985). So, I'm going to remove the rewrite notice at the top. The article still needs a fair amount of work, and could use some additional information on other Christian burial practices besides the Catholic ones. But, at this point, I don't think it needs a full rewrite. Kylef81 20:38, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

EXACLY —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.7.89.237 (talk) 22:55, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spot on. I came here to complain that there is utterly no material on Protestant burials at all after tedious paragraphs of Catholic burial practices that go into details of the funeral mass that are probably not appropriate in a general article of this type. Also, whoever has compiled this material is not well versed in archeology or actually history/letters either. I am Catholic but not a fanatic, and when I see the word "Christian" I would expect the diversity of Christian practice and beliefs to be discussed. 66.231.142.124 (talk) 18:38, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Protestant burials[edit]

And how are Protestants buried? And Mormons? And other non-Catholic and non-Orthodox Christians? 68.36.120.7 (talk) 18:07, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well I have added a bit to the lead, re cremation, & started a Protestant section, though generalization is difficult. Mormons etc I don't know about. Johnbod (talk) 18:37, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mass of the Angels?[edit]

I find "When the deceased is a baptised child under the age of seven the priest wears white vestments ...".

Years ago, when I would read the obituary of a Catholic, I would then read about the time and place that a Requiem Mass would be celebrated. EXCEPTION: When the deceased was a young child, I would see reference to Mass of the Angels, not to Requiem Mass. I don't think I know quite enough about this to make insertion in the article we are discussing, but I am thinking we need to make reference to Mass of the Angels. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.82 (talk) 16:17, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Hallow ground" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Hallow ground. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:27, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Grave Goods[edit]

The article on Grave_goods#Famous_grave_sites briefly mentions the burying of such goods for the Christian dead, and that this practice declined during the 5th and 6th centuries. This makes sense because, unlike any pagan afterlife, buried tools, food, etc. would be of no value in the Christian afterlife.

Can this topic be expanded upon? RMcPhillip (talk) 18:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]